Troll and Flaming Question

I see that on facebook all the time, well I see people calling other people trolls but I never heard of flaming. I don't go to a lot of blogs and I rarely comment on facebook because at this point I believe the majority of people that make comments on facebook (to articles and such NOT status updates or on personal pages) are rude and needy people. I feel this way because, all I see is hate and anger in their comments. I do not need that in my life. Sorry you were called such awful things but that seems to be the world on the internet these days. In my experience it ONLY brings out the bad in people and I have not seen the good. People must believe that because they are behind a computer screen and not with these other people they can be as rude as they like. But I also live in WI and right now things are bad politically, so my observations may be skewed. Just needed to put my 2cents in because I am tired of the hate.

Mom:

A troll is someone who comes to a site or a blog posing as someone they are not and then posts dramatic questions to upset others. Your first post(s) were dramatic - about losing a baby. You elicited a lot of drama with that one - outpouring of grief and sympathy for you.

Then your subsequent posts were conflicting your original post(s) - i.e. your husband, boyfriend, fiance. Then you stated your baby was 35 weeks. Then another stated you were 37 weeks. Now you are telling people you are one month postpartum.

Then asking questions about having sex on top - and initiating it with your man. When only having a baby or giving birth to a still born only 3 weeks prior. I know even after I delivered babies and lost a babies - my doctors said no sex for 6 to 8 weeks.

There are a ton of spelling and grammatical errors in your posts - most trolls have a TON of spelling errors. You didn't spell kidney correctly and if a W. has something wrong with a baby in-utero they do a ton of research to find out more than the doctors are telling them - therefore being able to spell the words correctly.

Therefore people think you are a troll. Just one that it hanging out more than a normal troll.

As to flaming - is a personal attack. It is when you call someone names or you specifically state something like "Colby sucks" in a post. Or calling a person a liar, etc. Doing something that is intentionally meant to hurt or belittle the person.

I always confused trolls with gargoyles, but that was before the Internet :-)

Trolls are those who ask question knowing it will start some sort of war, or just TROLLING (like fishing) for answers. The question is either extremely disgusting, very un-educated, or knowingly false. Flaming is someone who deliberately riles up posters or ask questions in order to illicit hot or heated responses. There is google, you can also look at Googles great responses to all these words.

I follow some of your questions and I dont find you a troll or flaming yet that I noticed

A Troll is someone who is intentionally trying to start a fight, make peope angry, and cause problems. There only goal is to piss people off.

I see a lot of people getting called trolls on here and they really aren't... People are just very easily annoyed it seems.

Flames are personal attacks. Basically someone tearing you down for the sake of it, or because they don't agree with your opinion. Different from discussing opinions through. Opinion "I do not agree with your stance on X" Flaming "You are a horrible, evil, smelly person for believing in X and I hope your car stops working."

:) hope this helps. I've moderated web forums for a long time.

If you get called that basically people are saying you are lying, a trouble maker, fake, rude... I could go on and on. If you get called a troll that pretty much means in the online world that people do not like you or find anything you have to say or add as useful or necessary.

I've been on message boards since the 90's and I've seen trolls do everything from make up a premature babies and get MONEY as donations. Fake having an illness in a support group and steal again money, supplies etc from other members. I've seen them do nothing more than make generalized statements that are simply meant to get people heated for their amusement. Heck I saw one earlier today on a jewelry board where a girl was trolling by making fun of people who collect coins and saying all American's are lazy, fat and stupid. It wasn't necessary. She was just trying to cause a fight. She managed it because just as she wanted she got under some peoples skin.

No one likes a troll and if you are being called one I'd say move along. It would be no different than if you are back in high school and everyone in your clique thinks you are two faced. No one pry likes you and you are wasting your time.

edit:
I should add that I don't know anything about you (or if you have any drama going on) and this isn't directed really at you. It's just an explanation.

A troll is someone who comes to a site to intentionally cause ill-will - like the person who kept asking if he/she should call CPS on his/her mom for calling him/her a baby in McDonald's. Or someone who posts a question about children being sexually active, etc.

To flame is to intentionally hurt someone. To personally attack them.

People online say things that they never would say to a person face to face. They also read what is posted with their own emotions so may not understand that a person is being positive or helpful if the person reading is down or feeling negitive. This causes a lot of unnessessary hurt feelings. I wouldn't worry about what others call you on here unless they are people in your life. There are those who do like causing trouble on facebook and such and I have also seen people who will hurt someone just to hurt someone, but I doubt you are like that. If these people are saying things like that, delete them, ignore them or report them, but the ONLY person you have to impress is the one who looks back at you in the mirror. If you are honest and true with yourself, most everyone else will be proud to call you friend. If they don't, they aren't worth your time. I am sorry some people are not being nice to you. It is more a reflection on them then on you.

Trolls emerge to cause trouble, outrage, or other forms of confusion and misery, purely for their own amusement.

I've seen quite a few troll posts in the last couple of weeks, and some of them are "subtle" enough to get quite a few responses. Some of those responses are, unfortunately, from moms who are scolding and proving they are more "clever" than the troll. But these feed the troll and elicit further trolling expeditions – they delight and gratify him/her.

Flaming is behavior we try to squelch in our children, but sometimes engage in ourselves: name-calling, scolding or abusing each other, or each other's choices, in ways that cross a line into bad manners or outright hatred. It can be a hard line to identify, because a more sensitive recipient might be crushed by a comment that another woman would merely consider rude or unnecessary. But if it's not something you would say out loud to your librarian or your child's teacher, it probably should not be said here.

Mamapedia's Terms and Conditions (find the link at the bottom of this page) include prohibitions intended to reduce trolling and flaming:

"You shall not create a user name or screen name or upload to, distribute through or otherwise publish through the Site any Materials which are indecent, libelous, defamatory, obscene, harmful of minors in any way, threatening, invasive of privacy or publicity rights, abusive, illegal, harassing, contain expressions of hatred, bigotry, racism or pornography, or are otherwise objectionable, or that would constitute or encourage a criminal offense, violate the rights of any party or violate any law."

Perhaps they thought you were a troll because you have many questions in a short time?

these are not nice names to be calling anyone...troll is an ugly lil creature used in kids story books

flaming is gay men overacting their sexuality-

so you need to tell the person calling you these dumb names that its totally unacceptable n rude!

If you have not received a message from the monitors of "mamapedia.com", warning you about something you posted that was considered offensive, then they do not consider your a "troll or a flammer".

However, even the best intentions sometimes get a warning, it doesn't mean you are banned, it is just a warning. People who continiously troll or flame can be banned forever.

Blessings...