Is My Husband a Control Freak?

Updated on May 07, 2010
E.M. asks from Boulder, CO
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And if so, can a control freak ever change? First of all, forgive me for posting 3 questions in 2 days. Things are crazy here now and I'm trying so hard to get a handle on the situation. I have a 4.5 year old with ADHD (diagnosed by LOTS of professionals) as if that is not enough, a very active 2 year old and a husband who is just now being diagnosed with ADHD. Aside from all of the challenges of being married to an un-medicated ADHD person, my husband constantly tries to micro-manage me. Here are some examples:
He will comment on the fact that I double click on things that only need a single click.
The fact that I push 1 0 0 START for one minute on the microwave as opposed to 30 seconds two times bothers him.
He wants me to rinse out sippy cups that have only been used once and put them on the drying rack as opposed to in the dishwasher.
If I am cooking dinner, he will come over and adjust the burner so the gas is lower.
When I hung a small bracelet from the rear view mirror as a decoration (he drives the car 5% of the time--rides his bike to work) he took it down. I said nothing and put it back up. He got very upset when he saw that I had put it back. He said I should have asked before putting it there. He would NEVER put something up in our car without asking first. (I question the truth in this as he makes TONS of IMPORTANT decisions regarding finances, real estate etc and doesn't give two hoots about my opinion).
He has complete control over our finances and has gotten us into debt by making some very poor, impulsive decisions. When I have given my opinion on these decisions, he just tells me I don't understand (because I don't agree) when I finally say FINE because I am sick of being virtually told I am stupid (not literally told) he does what he wants.
If something gets spilled, he gets snappy and upset (my attitude is "No big deal. Let's clean it up").
If the kids get some crumbs on the carpet he would immediately say "There are crumbs ALL OVER," and act all dramatic about it (usually I literally laugh at his dramatic depiction of what amounts to a small sprinkling of crumbs).
He has re-arranged things on my computer so that is more organized (in his mind!) in my mind it totally screws up the way I had things organized.

Anyway, just a few examples to let you know what I am dealing with. He can be extremely stressful to be around at times. I'll just be minding my own business when he'll snap at me or correct me and, as a very liberated woman, I don't cower to it. I want to (and sometimes do, explode). I do love him. He has a ton of wonderful traits and is a wonderful, involved parent (when things are calm and the kids are being well-behaved and not screaming). I have my faults too. But I have a lot of days where I feel like there is no way I can spend the rest of my life like this--no matter how much I love him. If he goes on ADHD meds could that help any of this? Could it be related to ADHD--is he compensating for his own lack of inner control? Have you ever heard that you turn into your mother? We'll, I thought that meant women. But my husband has turned into HIS mother. Don't even get me started on her!
Oh and P.S. We did go to marriage counseling for this already but old habits die hard and I think the impulsive factor of his ADHD makes it hard for him to keep his mouth shut when something triggers him--no matter how much we talk about it in advance.
I think he has gotten much worse since we've had children. After all, you have to be flexible and tolerant and able to deal with chaos when raising small children--not to mention ADHD children.

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Wow, thanks Mamas. These answers have been hard to read--but only because of a grain of truth in each of them. I shed a few tears last about my whole situation--which is the first time I have ever done so. I usually just get angry or bottle it up. Divorce is not an option so we have no choice but to work on things--we are too poor to get a divorce. You know, the type of poor where you live in a nice house and drive a nice car, but your finances are a huge mess--that type of poor. No one knows your dirty little secret type of poor. I have looked at both OCD and OCDP and I would have to say that OCDP fits best, along with his ADHD. He does not have rituals or compulsions or obsessions. It's just that he has all these "little rules"" about things that I seem to break all of the time that drive him crazy. He in no way thinks that he is being ridiculous. He thinks that I am being silly that I just don't see things his way. Some of the things I have mentioned he doesn't do as much anymore but other things have come up that he fixates on. He does not act "angry" about these things....he just "comments" on things all the time. A lot of his sentences start out like this "You never..." "I don't see why you can't..." "Why can't you just...." It's very passive agressive (again his mother). He seems frustrated and exasperated by me a lot. (Right back at ya' Babe!)
His father I have pegged as a sociopath or narcissistic personality disorder (no joke, I've researched it a ton) and his mother seems very ADHD and OCDP too. I had never heard of OCDP until I asked this question but it fits her like a glove too. HIs mother just married for the 3rd time at 65 and his father has been married and divorced 4 times and hasn't held a job in 20 years--just leaches off of people, lies about looking for a job and is one of the creepiest men I have ever met--complete with the piercing gaze and soft voice that characterizes male sociopaths. SIGH. There are a lot of great things about my husband and we are happy in a lot of ways (is that weird?) I think I have compensated for him in a lot of ways, changing who I am to keep him quiet--letting him drive, doing things his stupid way so I don't have to hear about it, etc. I have tried, believe me, to calmly tell him how I feel and how what he says makes me feel. He reacts in a myriad of different ways--laughs it off, is apologetic, makes me out to be irrational, gets defensive, accuses me of doing the same thing to him. I also have blown up at him enough times--sometimes I think he responds to that better--even though he immediately gets mad back, he is usually humble and apologetic afterward. Bottom line, he hasn't stopped. Honestly, it's like he CAN'T stop. I am making some calls today to get us in to a psychiatrist ASAP. It was already on my list of things to do. But geez, you just can't get a live person on the phone. I still welcome any additional insight into my situation. It is not something I can really talk about to family and friends since we are not currently headed for divorce. xo

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A.A.

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I would strongly suggest counseling for the family. A third party will not just let him off the hook, nor agree with either of you constantly. They will teach better communication, and it is the perfect venue to bring up his tendency to have unrealistic rules for how you do most things.

And his mother is the only model he associates with good parenting. He needs teaching, but a counselor will be best equipped to help him learn, where he will not hear many things from you.

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It is likely the ADHD.
Getting on meds will help, but he needs to go to a counsilor or psychiatrist for the ADHD specifically.

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Not only does he have ADHD, counseling for him should quickly reveal OCD as well. Yes you are being micro-managed. Drugs can help him, but he has to want to change as well.

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Yes, he's controlling and yes, it's related to his ADHD as well as an inner sense that he has to have total control to feel safe. He is most likely totally unaware of his sense of insecurity and that he needs to have total control, even down to when to wash the sippy cup in order to feel secure.

I can respond to this from various view points. My father was much like this and his father, my grandfather, before him. I lived with my grandparents my first year of college and I was for the most part able to ignore my grandfather. My mother said he'd mellowed a whole lot with age. I was rarely able to ignore my father and nearly always responded in anger even after I became an adult and had years of therapy.

I finally realized that I was somewhat of a micro manager with my family after several years of counseling with my daugher and my husband. I was surprised years later when I was thinking about my life that I wasn't a micro manager in my career. In fact one of the reasons I left teaching was that I wasn't able to consistently manage a classroom to my micro managing department head's expectation. Quite a revelation!

I was for the most part an easy going supervisor as a police sergeant but I
had to consciously learn how to be consistent in managing. Learning a consistent, effective way to manage has taken me a lifetime and I'm still having to work at it. I resented my father's micro managing and in my careers went too far in the other direction, giving others too much latitude in carrying out their duties and then being upset when they didn't even do them.

At home, I vacillated between micro managing and expecting my children to know what to do. In between I felt a lot of anger because they just wouldn't listen to me. Learning how to be consistent is probably the most difficult lesson I've had to learn. Letting go of my anger over being micro managed and feeling unheard comes in a very close second in difficulty of lessons learned.

My daughter, to this day, (she's now nearly 30) does not like to vacuum because I insisted precisely how she was to do it and was angry when she didn't do it my way. I thought I was providing her with standards but my own anxiety over micro managing got in the way creating the anger. Looking back, I wasn't micro managing. I was providing a reasonable standard for what would be considered a good job. But when she didn't accept that standard I became an angry micro manager instead of just repeating the standard and having her redo it in any way that got the job done.

I am close to a couple who both micro manage each other and don't even realize it. If they're both in the room when they discover crumbs on the floor both will have a negative comment to the other and how what they did or didn't do caused the crumbs. Then they'll have a "fight" over who will clean it up as both of them start to clean it up. (They both want to clean it up.) It would be funny if the emotions weren't so raw. Both have been divorced and it's my guess that this attitude and behavior contributed to the divorces. What my friend tells me is that this marriage survives because they both realize that the other isn't going to change and they've learned to put up with each others' faults. They have frequent petty spats but still show love in between them.

It's my suggestion, based on these personal experiences, that your husband will not be able to make a drastic change. He will be able to modify his management style if he wants to do so. Wanting to do so will only happen once he's able to acknowledge that micro managing is not working for him. And I think that he probably won't be able to acknowledge that until he's able to acknowledge how his insecurity is driving his micro managing and then be able to accept feeling insecure. It's very complicated!

His insecurity triggers his micro managing and your insecurity triggers your feeling stupid. In reality, he's most likely not thinking you're stupid. He's thinking that his way is better and he needs to do things better so that everyone is safe. When he was a baby, a toddler, and/or a child he didn't feel safe. He doesn't remember why he didn't feel safe but he learned ways of behaving so that he would feel safe. As an adult he's unlikely to even be aware that he doesn't feel safe. He just knows that everything has to be done a certain way. He has to feel that he's in control. Tho he mostly likely won't be aware of his need to feel control.

I've been in therapy and it took me years to figure all of that out for myself. However, once I was aware that I was reacting to things from my past, I worked on finding out my triggers and dealing with them. It is a difficult process that takes years. For a marriage to survive they have to be in counseling and working together on this process. Both people have triggers that is causing them to react to each other in the way that they are reacting.

You can make your relationship with your husband better for yourself if you can focus on your reaction. Examine how his micromanaging makes you feel and find a way to deal with your feelings. You can't change the way he acts but you can change the way that you feel. If you can stop feeling stupid and angry he will be more likely able to recognize and then eventually acknowledge his own sense of insecurity that is causing him to act the way he's acting.

I suggest that the only way you'll be able to work this out is with intense personal and couple's counseling. It will help if you're able to let go of your anger at being micro managed. For me, my anger with my father was the source of my present day anger. Once my father became extremely ill and died I was able to let go of my anger at him. (That is a different post.) I was surprised at how not feeling angry with my father reduced the amount of anger I felt at other current times.

My daughter often micro manages now. I think the way we manage can be a generational thing just as parenting can be. I still sometimes get irritated with her when I see her micro managing her children. I used to try to talk with her about the way I micro managed and how she didn't like it and how she is now doing that to her kids and we'd both get sucked into rage. After my father's death and some more internal work I was able to feel more irritation than anger.

Now, if I'm starting to feel that I need to make a comment I leave the room and if that doesn't work I leave her home. You don't have that option. Micro managing is in your home. But you can find ways to deal with your feelings without reacting to your husband.

What will help the most is when both of you feel secure enough in your relationship that you can both tell the other how you're feeling and both of you can accept it without making excuses or rationalizing what you're feeling or doing. Isn't that what makes a good relationship in the first place? All too often we get side tracked with day to day living together and forget that love involves accepting the other person just as they are without needing to change them. OH MY!

That sort of love is difficult and takes a lifetime to learn if it can be learned at all!!!!! Sometimes it's best to let go and move on. It took me several failed relationships before I was able to accept that some people are just not able to show me the kind of love I want. Again, love is another very complicated emotion/relationship.

We all have boundaries set at a point inside of which we can be happy but outside of then we're unhappy. I finally learned that I cannot accept micro managing and I don't even try to have a relationship with a non related micro manager. I do work on my relationship with my daughter because rejecting her does not fit within my boundaries. I suggest that with counseling you and your husband will find what you can accept and what you can't. What you can change and what you can't. You'll find a way to be happy enough with each other to stay in the marriage or decide to find a way to have a workable relationship separate from each other.

At this point in your relationship when you're just discovering that he has ADHD, I recommend that you continue to work to find ways to deal with this including the micro managing.

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P.M.

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I'm married to one of the sweetest, kindest men on the planet, but he has an amazing ability to make the same blatant mistakes over and over. He comments repeatedly on my love of certain little comforts, details not necessary because this can be broadened to include ANY little habits any spouse may have.

But he acts surprised over and over that I take several minutes several times a day for this little comfort ritual. So one day, I mentioned that I was puzzled by his comments, and wondered if he was trying to tell me he disapproved. He was surprised, and told me no, he was just commenting. I asked if next time, he could keep his comments to himself. Sure, he says. So guess what he did less than 20 minutes later?

So, your husband's impulsivity may be even harder for him to control, considering the ADHD. Meds might help. And I think you have a huge insight with the thought that his controlling others is a compensation not only for the wild ride of raising kids, but also for his own inner lack of control. That's a well-known strategy for just about every human on the planet.

Now, the finance situation is really something you would do well to keep working out. That is not something you should allow yourself to be shut out of, because you will be responsible for any debt incurred by either of you.

A last thought – you might enjoy this story I heard from a toastmasters friend. He considered himself to be an efficiency expert, and took on the project of making his wife's life easier. He began pointing out cabinets she could rearrange, and tasks she could reorder or combine, when making his breakfast. He followed her around with a clipboard and determined that if she followed his practical advice, she could save 14 minutes from starting the coffee to washing up the breakfast dishes.

He closed his story by telling his audience, "That estimate was a little low. Now that I am making my own breakfast, I find that I can actually save 16 minutes."

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i divorced that to later find outthe reason for his behavior was drugs.

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K.C.

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As someone who is suffering from adult ADHD, I know what it's like. Yes, meds will help to a point (and there's the trial and error of finding the right one). Sometimes it's not just one. He should also seek out psychotherapy to help as well. It's done wonders for me. They can help teach him new techniques for things he's doing and avoiding all the 'not so good' so to say. I used to be like your husband, and I've gotten better. Not healed completely, but way better than I used to be :)

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First of all, take a slow, deep breath. Research has shown that it changes a person physiologically. Take time to do that everyday. Now, I am in a similar situation so here is what I have.

There is also another disorder called OCPD--obsessive compulsive personality disorder. It is different from OCD and is more like a religion to the person so it is harder to diagnose and treat than OCD. According to a friend who has OCD, people with OCD usually eventually realize that their behavior is affecting them and the people around them so they are willing to get help. But people with OCPD believe they are right and that the people around them are being difficult.

http://www.thehealthcenter.info/adult-ocd/ocpd.htm

I recommend talking to a psychologist for yourself first. You sound overwhelmed and it is not easy dealing with a husband and kids who have issues. Some professional guidance will definitely give you the strength and guidance you will need for this journey because these are problems that will last a lifetime.

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A.R.

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Wow, I swear we live in the same house (responded to your other question too). Part of it might be an ADHD behavior, unlike those who suggest OCD I am gonna tell you it probably isnt OCD as its more about control and less about anxiety... OCD is uncontrollable impulses related to anxiety management. I agree more with the others who suggested OCPD Enough with the diagnosis stuff...

Meds might help - he would be likely to think and not say anything about what he would like you to be doing. Metacommunication also very helpful, tell him how you feel when he tells you what you should be doing, in a nice way! Such as "I appreciate your opinion, and this is my way of doing these things and hearing you tell me I am wrong is hurtful/frustrating/painful. Next time, please keep your advice to yourself or feel free to do these things yourself." If you say it enough, he is likely to slow down on the helpful comments or stop. I avoid cooking for this reason - my husband hoovers and suggest the whole time. Apparently there is a wrong way to cut a grilled cheese - who knew!?! I finally just stopped... and he now does all the cooking.

I, like the other moms, suggest having him see a psychologist or psychiatrist to evaluate him for the best medication out there. Don't just go with what your primary care doc suggests as stimulants can make anxiety worse - and some antidepressants are known to help with concentration/ADHD.

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Your husband is simply afraid. Afraid of his world being "out of order", afraid that if he is not in control his world will collapse. He cannot handle stress, and kids do bring stress. Re-assure him, continue being calm and don't take it personally. The blames and insults, etc are not about you, it's about him wanting things to be normal in his mind. He can't function in chaos.

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I think you are beyond being patient with this man. I have a husband that always wants me to drive, but if I go a different direction than what he wants, he is the first to point it out. I usually tell him he can take over because I can't seem to get it right. He will stop at that point and let me drive. Maybe you could try telling your husband that he is not allowed in the kitchen while your cooking, or that is your reason to leave, and let him take over. There can only be one chef, will it be you or your husband? Maybe you should try a vegetarian diet for him. I think people are angry these days because we eat animals that are not happy. They are cooped up without natural daylight, fed from something not their mommies. They are angry! If we are what we eat, would that make us angry as well? Just a thought

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K.M.

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Ooooh, it sounds very uncomfortable at your house right now. I agree that whatever is going on with him is not normal, although I couldn't tell you what exactly is the problem. However, whatever you do, you have to do your best to stay calm and centered while you deal with it. If you don't you will both slide off the edge. He and you together need some help. I'm really sorry it's so hard right now. Try some deep breathing and relaxation techniques if you can, to help you find the energy you need to get traction on all this.
Hang in there.
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My brother and mom both have ADHD, and when my brother was getting out of the military, he was also diagnosed with OCD. I'm pretty sure my mom has it too. What your husband is doing sounds a LOT like this.

Some examples: My brother can't stand incandescant bulbs, whenever we move to a new apartment he runs out and buys fluorescent bulbs for all our light fixtures (this is my home, not his! Not that I mind...)
My mom has an EXACT way she does laundry (down to counting the underwear as she puts them in one at a time...sigh) and loads the dishwasher. I have to send her out of the room if I am doing laundry or dishes because I don't do it the same way - mine or hers! She also has an exact way of brushing her teeth (the order of the teeth, the order of sideways, up, down, etc) and other personal hygene matters down to counting t.p. squares (which she taught us as "the way" to do these things)

If he's just been diagnosed with ADHD, they could easily be missing other related issues like OCD. It doesn't necessarily need meds, but like ADHD being aware of it help deal with it. I also would recommend counseling for him (you mentioned marriage counseling which is great!). Working for a couple of months with a counselor might help him recognize more what he is doing (which are coping strategies he's developed over his life) and come up with new strategies.

ps.. Mom and brother laugh with me about their foibles and know I have my own weirdnesses, so I don't feel like I'm betraying them when I share what they do.

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G.J.

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Hi there! I have to go to work, so I'll keep this brief, which is very difficult for me...lol...

R-E-S-P-E-C-T

My husband is also an unmedicated ADHD, among other things. He's now taking SAM-E supplement and ginkgo Biloba, which helps quite a bit to get him to focus without "drugging" him. However, it sounds to me like your husband just plain has a lack of respect. Trust me, it will erode away your patience and self respect, and I sure wish I'd put my foot down early in the relationship, instead of waiting 10 years and until we were on extremely rocky ground, to insist that he treat me with the respect that I'd tried to grant him for years.

It helped me to talk to a counselor alone, where I felt free to speak my mind without "help" (hahahahaha), until I figured out the root of the problem, then to talk to him with the counselor where he needed to take me more seriously because someone else was watching.

Best wishes and blessings!

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L.B.

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I think that your husband's ADHD is causing him the need to find control and it is expressed by the need to control you and I don't think that he is aware of what he is doing. This doesn't make it any less annoying. I don't believe that he has OCD. Obsessions are intrusive irrational thoughts that repeatedly well up in a persons mind. Compulsions are repetitive rituals such as handwashing, counting, checking or hoarding and the person feels that if they do not perform these rituals something bad will happen. That does not sound like what your husband is doing.
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On top of having ADHD it sounds like he may have OCD. Have you two talked about this possiblilty at all. I think it may be worth looking into.

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N.C.

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Your husband sounds like a micro-managing person, who is bordering on abusive (he controls your finances, and does not welcome your input, and puts you down as not understanding it). It sounds like he has possible symptoms of OCD: http://helpguide.org/mental/obsessive_compulsive_disorder...

I would be frustrated if I were you, too. It sounds like you really love him, and care about him, and see the good in him, too. I think he needs to understand how his actions affect you and the family, because as your children grow, he will be involved in their upbringing. They look up to both daddy and mommy, and emulate your behavior without you realizing it (I realized I made a mistake of saying "I'm stressed out" one day, as my three-year-old says it now when he is even slightly vexed over something... he will sigh, and say, "Mama, I'm so stressed out!" yikes!!!). Your husband probably could benefit from some counseling (individual first) and then you can see if marriage counseling is necessary. Just my opinion, from an outsider's perspective. Good luck to you, and wishing you strength.

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This sounds more like OCD is causing the issues than his ADHD. I have a friend with a hubby (and a daughter) with ADHD and it's like she has two kids!
Has hubby considered treatment for ADHD and OCD? I think until he does, he's probably going to remain the same.

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C.C.

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I agree that it sounds like OCD that was what I was thinking as I read your post. I think the more you educate yourself on OCD and how to live with someone who is OCD the happier you will be~I'm not a professional either so I can't diagnose him it was just my thought that this is probably what it is. no matter what the issue is OCD, ADHD or him just having issues with control (that would come from his growing up in a situation like that from the sounds of it, which would also explain why he's worse now that kids have come along as it probably triggers memories for him and he's responding with the mechanisms he learned to cope as a kid) they can all be helped in therapy. for him someone who specializes in control issues and for you someone who can help you just put it all into perspective and help you set healthy boundaries. You absolutely need to find a way to be involved in the finances though. If a divorce were to happen or something were to happen to him you need to know what is going on with your money. I don't know if Colorado is like Utah but here if one spouse picks up debt the other spouse is responsible for half if there is a divorce even if their name wasn't on any of the paper work. its okay for one partner to be the one who spearheads what goes on with finances but its not okay to be in the dark about what is happening with it. its easier to throw hands up and just say find you do it but its not healthy for the relationship. in our situation, my husband deploys a lot and I get used to doing it all, when he is home I am still just taking care of it, we have to work at doing it together when he is home to sit down and make decisions together. I still usually pay the bills but we've gone over the finances together. is it hard for me? sure--I'm used to just doing it sometimes I get frustrated and just want to take care of it without a 'meeting' BUT if something were to happen to me my husband needs to know what is going on, and we help each other be accountable so that we aren't out making purchases that can cause financial havoc. out of everything you wrote about that was the part that concerned me the most. that would be the one I would put me foot down on. good luck.

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Since you say divorce is not an option (good for you!) and that he has many wonderful traits, why not just accept his controlling comments about stupid things lightly and with humor?

"Yes, honey, there are crumbs all over." "Oh yes, dear, it's better to use the microwave that way." Not sarcastic, just go along with it.

Having to live in such a constrained world as his is torture. Since most of these things ARE stupid and unimportant, maybe you should stop being annoyed by them and just go along. (Even though it's annoying as hell.) Just be happy life isn't as difficult for you.

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T.W.

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Unfortunately you are dealing with a person that just cannot change the way he feels about things the rest of us find menial. One of my closest friends is like your husband, I was at her house for dinner one night and the second I set my fork down she would run over a grab it, rinse it and put it in the dishwasher. I wasn't even done eating! She finds irritation in a lot of the things your husband does and truly doesn't even get it. She always said that that drugs make what she calls the "buzzing" go away and it is nice but has still chosen not to go the drug route for personal reasons. I think in your case, and for the sake of sanity and peace, you should have your husband try the drugs. This is no way to live - AT ALL!

Good luck!

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R.T.

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I am so OCD and admittedly a control freak. It helps to be not in denial since when you are being neurotic the people around you can not take you so seriously. I don't know if we can so much change as much as being self aware, which helps us let some things go. I admit that there are some things I cannot let go. I want them my way. There are other things that I just change when no one is looking since it is my preference. I try to only complain about those things that really drive me crazy. I don't think he is trying to cause issues. I think he cannot control his impulses. He NEEDS things to be a certain way or it drives him crazy. Maybe you guys can compromise. That is what my hubby and I do.

I think that if he can come to terms with his issues (and it is not a big deal because everyone has issues) then I think you two can live with this:) Good luck! I guess I better give my hubby an extra kiss tonight for putting up with me:) LOL!

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L.B.

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Not to be discouraging, but he has a lot of traits in common with my EX husband.

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