Do You Raise All Kids the Same?

Updated on February 14, 2011
D.S. asks from Katy, TX
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ok I am going to get attacked I already know that but here is the situation. I have a 21 yr old son a 20 yr old ss and a 2 yr old son all living in my house. the 21 yr old is going to school. now I just got a second job which I am finally getting 40 hrs at that job I didnt want to give up my 15 hr wk job so we could get on our feet and have extra money sooner. so has to get up at 4 am to go to work and on wed and fri me and my 21 yr old get up at 4am. me to work and him so he can catch his ride to school. my 20 yr old ss does ministries on tues and thurs which is fine. but I had asked him to be in at 1030 on tues and thurs cause I was working 60 hrs a week and 16 hr days on wed and fri. but he decided since he was an adult he didnt have to do this. I told him if I am working 60 hrs a week to support you it is the least you can do cause the baby has bad sleeping problems at night which I have asked for help on in this site. the 20 yr old is not working for pay. he come home late tues his dad has been asking him to help and I have been begging and pleading with him. when he come home he told me he didnt have to follow house rules. he could do what he wanted to do so I kicked him out for being disrespectful. I was totally exausted at the time and the baby was still awake. he told my son that only one of them have to be home at 1030. I explained to him that my son also has to get up at 4am. and the least he could do is help if I am going to work 60 hrs to support him. he thinks his reputation is at stake if he doesnt help with everything at ministries. he is wanting to go to ministry school and this helps his college app. I get that. church was over at 1015 but he got home late after 1030. because he was cleaning up. so I blew my stack and kicked him out. my so says I should make exemptions for the house rules for him. I say raise them the same so says I cant do that they are diffrent kids. if this had been my 21 yr old and the 20 yr old had to get up for school I would have kicked my own kid out too. I explained to my ss if i was living in someone elses house at 43 I would still have to follow house rules. their house rules. dad says I am wrong I think ss is wrong. exaustion fueled alot of this. so who is right me or so and if it is so why. and yes I do know i am going to get slammed for disciplining my ss its dads job but dad wasnt getting anywhere with him and I couldnt see any reason to treat him diffrent than my own son. what is your opinion? if this had been a paid job I wouldnt have kicked him out.

edit he wasnt 15 minutes late he was more than that. and he always had a lie or an excuse for breaking the rules and the 21 yr old is getting paid to babysit the 2 yr old now. I have no evening daycare open late enough. I was going to pay the 20 yr old but since he makes his own rules the 21 yr old is getting paid so I can work.

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well i got home and my ss was here and come up to me immediately and apologized for his wrong doings. I almost fell down. we talked for a bit and he is going to stay with a friend for 2 weeks but come over when his dad is off. I think this is a good idea. I think time and space will help the situation alot. aperently he talked to someone who got through to him. I think all of your post are right and we are going to change things around here. I definately like the phrase quit being a parent and start being a landlord. as far as to how far the church was 10 min. and dont get the impression daddy doesnt do anything. he does laundry and cleans and helps with the baby but he makes more than me so I am going to let him sleep not me. he runs errands I need ran and goes to the store everyday when he gets off on his way home if he knows we need something. we both do our fair share. sometimes daddy works 60 hrs to but not very often. he works at a jail so sometimes he has to stay. but he is my rock when I need him to be and he does alot for me around the house and such so I will never complain about daddy. he even cooks but it has to be hamburger helper. I have made a lot of progress with ss he wouldnt even pick up after himself when he first got here now he cleans the house without bieng told. I have hope for the kid and am very impressed the changes he has made even though he is still lacking in some areas. one day and one crisis at a time.

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T.N.

answers from Albany on

So when does D. get time for D.?

You are scrambling around trying to hold everyone's schedules together, making extra money, trying to hold it all together....

One question, who does ANYTHING at all for you? Who tells you how fantastic you are for everything you do?

What's the MAN'S contibutions?

I'm sorry D., I like your posts, and I like your responses, and I see you are an open minded flexible person, and it occurs to me you are killin' yourself to make it all work, but are not taking care of your own needs.

Peace to ya Sista, I hope you give yourself a break soon!

:)

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D.B.

answers from Charlotte on

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M.L.

answers from Houston on

He was at church and got home 15 mins late for cleaning up. Really, give him a break, you are in the wrong on this one. Unless he has a history of being rude/disrespectly/out partying and always late, then I'd be fed up too.

Also, you have 2 ADULT BOYS living with you while you work 60 hours a week supporting them. There is something seriously wrong with this. Who cares if they are in school, they can get a part time job and PAY RENT or at the very least help with groceries and utilities, and the boys and your husband should be contributing to /laundry/cleaning/cooking/child care and such as well.

Sounds like two kids who are mooching off of you. You need to sit down as a family, tell them you are quitting your part time job and they need to contribute financially, or they need to go an d get their own apartment.

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S.T.

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To answer your actual original question no you cannot raise all kids the same in my opinion. I have three very young children and even at this age I have to adjust things to fit each of them. One is very stingy and would have every single toy in the house if i didn't stop him, so his rules are different than that of our middle son who is very giving and would give his brother every toy he had and have nothing to play with... Our daughter is still a baby so her rules are different as well.
With that said, i think that the 20yr old ss, should be given some leway. He is ministering... there are much worse things 20 yr olds could be doing... and i think it should be considered his 'job' and if his job is not over at a time that he can be home at 10:30 to help you then it isn't. HOWEVER, I do feel that the other posters are right too, they should be helping so you don't have to work two jobs, and a 2yr old should not still be awake at 10:30.
When i was college (not that many years ago) I worked two jobs to pay for it and had a full time college load. The second time I was in college, I worked full-time and went to school full time and had two/three kids (last born while i was in school). I could not have done it without my husband who worked just as hard as i did to take care of our family...
I think that both boys should have some job and be helping you out with bills and with the house. I really hope everything is straightened out soon. Also, go get yourself a massage, it will help with your stress.

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D.G.

answers from Chattanooga on

So does that mean your husband does not have a paying job? I think both men should be paying something towards running of household. That must be rough working that many hours and having a child that is young enough to be your grandchild.On the kicking him out for getting home after 10:30 how far is the ministry from your house?..Don't put all the blame on your step son his father your husband should be taking care of your baby also.And what did they do where they needed to be at church that late?

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B.M.

answers from Chicago on

Why is there a difference based on pay? If this is something he loves that will further his career that keeps him out of trouble then it is just an important as if he gets a job at McDonalds for minimum wage - which it sounds like you would view differently?

The problem isn't either of your sons. And I don't even think the problem is that YOU disciplined your step-son.... different families do things differently.
The actual problem is that you and hubby are not on the same page as far as priorities and responsibilities around the home.

You admit that this will help him with his college application, yet you aren't treating that as a priority.

I agree you shouldn't have to do everything..... but can you hire someone else to help you with getting the baby to bed on those 2 days each week? Who is with the baby before 10:30 if you are working?

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D.M.

answers from Denver on

I agree in general that when you live in someone's house you follow the rules (period)! I also agree different kids need different things... However, at 20 and 21, you are no longer a kid, but an adult. I think it would be more appropriate to teach him responsbility by having him (the ss) - (and maybe your son too) get a job and pay rent. Then you will be able to work less? At 20 and 21, they are "adults" and should be responsible at some level - maybe there is room to talk about what that looks like... are the other options? Good luck!

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C.N.

answers from Baton Rouge on

At 20 and 21, if they're still living with you, they need to have paying jobs and be helping pay the bills, as well as contributing to housework. That does NOT include free child care for their baby brother, however. He is you and your husband's responsibility, not theirs. If they baby-sit, you need to pay them the going rate.
They are too old for a curfew.
Basically, once they're grown and still livnig at home, you need to stop being their parent and start being their landlord.

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K.M.

answers from Chicago on

You are BOTH right, you can not raise all kids the same but there can be general house rules that are the same for all
I think there needs to be a better and centrally located house schedule. I also think that you are the mother of the children and it is your job since you had the baby. If your oldest is willing to help out then that is awesome but it appears your ss is not on that same train and forcing him to be involved is only going to breed resentment for all. I would have a family meeting let the family know where you need help, give dad and the older boys the same opportunity then as a group prioritize and form a game plan and family schedule. That may mean you loose some sleep on your part. I wonder if other household members feel as if you have too many expectations of them that are not CLEARLY stated and you simply assume they will follow your command (thoughts from when I was in my early 20's). I am sure that is not your intention but remember the mindset and attitude you had in your early 20's and remember that he feels when he is working with the church he is serving a higher power and that will ALWAYS come first to him.

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J.K.

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If it's his ministry and his committment, then I think you should cut him some slack. If he's coming straight home then give him a little grace and leeway. If he's just going out with friends, then yes, I can see you putting your foot down. Even if he's not getting paid for this, it sounds like this is the direction his life is going so these volunteer hours would be the same for him as a paid job. Maybe you can sit down and come to some agreement about him being extremely quiet when he comes in. Good luck!

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