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I don't even know what you are talking about....could you give a brief dsecription? I have never heard nor have seen anything about this. Maybe its a regional thing.
I have to admit that I thought the whole conspiracy theory thing was pretty ridiculous for a long time. About two years ago, my closest friend that I talk to every single day, started talking about them. For two years I rolled my eyes at her, and told her I thought she was turning into a crazy person. After a while, every time she would bring it up, I would do that whole "ugggggggghhhhhhhhh not again" thing with the facial expressions and sounds. I know you know what I mean ;) Anyway, she just would not stop with it, and after a while I started catching myself looking into it a little bit here and there, but as soon as I would catch myself I'd stop. I didn't want to be like those people on facebook, posting illuminate videos titled something like "WAKE UP PEOPLE THE ILLUMINATE IS REAL", who i thought were so stupid (pardon my language lol, i know some of you are sensitive to that sort of talk). Anyway, I don't know how this happened exactly, but I started researching it on my own... and now I'm kind of on board and worried. I think what really got me on board with the conspiracy theorists was watching interviews with Zeena LaVey (the daughter of Anton LaVey, who wrote the Satanic bible). I mean, they pretty much openly admit that everything is true and that they are behind it with an agenda... and if you look at the world today, I think it's pretty telling. I mean, I guess there's not much we can do about it now, and I don't really care, because I am a Christian who places the importance on my after life with Christ. ...
but I guess my real question is this:
How many of you believe in conspiracy theories? Am I just into it now because she's been in my ear for the past two years, or do you think it's all real?
Soooooooooooooooooooo, what the french toast is with all those FEMA coffins and concentration camp like things......... I meeeeeeeeeeeeannnnnnnn........ is everyone just ok with waiting for this to happen? I'm NOT going into one of those camps, or taking my baby into one.
Amanda,
Are you suggesting that anyone who questions these conspiracy theories are not useful members of society, and that you think it's ok to put people in gas chambers to thin the population? Even the most useful person in society, if he or she has any moral compass at all, will not agree with that. Anyone who agrees with you is deceived. That is absolutely revolting to me. What makes you useful? If it's your job, then what if you lost your job tomorrow, just like millions of other highly educated and highly skilled americans have? I guess that according to your own logic, you and your children should be gassed too. Am I correct?
I'd rather die of a "drug overdose" before that happens...
I don't even know what you are talking about....could you give a brief dsecription? I have never heard nor have seen anything about this. Maybe its a regional thing.
The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of us are plebs/peasants. We don't know what goes on in the short list of the über rich or über powerful. So we make up stories.
Some will be true
Some won't
Just like the stories made up about the upper class / middling wealthy (celebs, politicians, etc.) that splash all over the NYT to Enquirer.
Same kinds of stories, but about people who seek out the limelight to begin with, and have very limited resources (comparatively)
It's all "us" looking up at different classes/castes and making up stories. Out of admiration, fear, envy... Using partial truths to logic to flat out whole cloth.
There is absolutely 0 (zip, nada, zilch) I can do to either join said club, nor influence it. So I don't worry about it.
At all.
And 'club' is a metaphor. The same way parents w sick kids in a hospital are in a 'club'. It's a situational thing, predicated on having so much money or power. And most of them value their privacy enough, that unless one starts looking up boards... We'd never have any idea who these people are. And even then only know a few dozen of the business minded ones. (Like all families, only some like being in business... Others are artists, doctors, teachers, travellers, spies, soldiers, etc.) By and large, though, they work privately (like for the Pope, or Uncle Jimmy's Company).
They're just normal people, doing people things, for normal people reasons, in a class/caste I don't happen to belong to.
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Normal Person Thing : Help Homeless
Poor - Give a $1 to a person as they can
Middle - Max a tax deductable donation to organization
Upper - Hold a benefit or create an organization
Ruling - Create laws that help people avoid or climb out of homelessness
Über - Fund deveral research groups and think tanks, then fund and facilitate the manufacturing of cheaper psychiatric drugs that organizations can afford to donate to homeless, reducing homelessness by 40%, and set up endowments across 60 countries, and hundreds of colleges, that assist at risk populations in furthering their educations, and get various corporations to dollar match their employees contributions to organizations on your approved list.
My husband loves watching those shows... "Alien's Exist" "Conspiracy Theories Behind 9/11" blah blah blah
Of course I usually have to watch them too because really... Our apartment is pretty small and there is no where to hide! Lol
Anyways, every time I watch one of those shows all of the theories seem so REAL! Just insanely real! My husband always has to pull me back to reality and tell me that it's fake.
My relatives are.
They watch the shows. I've watched some of them while at my uncle & aunt's house because it's the only thing on the tv so you can't quite escape it.
I can see where they would buy into it.
I've had co-workers in the past point things out.
While it could be totally plausible, I won't buy into it or think too much of it
Why? Because I have no control over it, am not sure it is in fact true, if
it is true: we've been living like this for a long time so it's Big Brother
(edit: not the show but the book "1984") and you can't fight it, I try to keep some things private etc.
I'll admit that sometimes things are so insanely crazy that it seems like the only plausible explanation is a conspiracy.
Coupled with the fact that some of the craziest events in history, once unfolded, if reviewed from a more skeptical view point would have looked like conspiracies... well, coincidence can't account for all of it.
That's my opinion. Plus it seems to have become fashionable to attach a the crazy-consipiracy-label to people who have gotten a little too close to figuring out what you are truely up to. You know, in an effort to discredit you. (Cause people are ALWAYS truthful about what they are up to. Especially the government!)
Conspiracy theories are fun, but that's just it: they're fun.
I have a girlfriend that I talk to on the phone just about every day. And every once in a while, we might voice our frustration with the world in general, sometimes with a devious fantasy - and always remember to add: "Homeland security, if you're listening - that one is for you!" Because, of course, we would never ACTUALLY try to rob a bank or whatever.
(Of course not. And, since I know the censors are looking - please disregard that phone conversation we had last week about airport security...you know the one....with the pocket knife and the nail clippers...)
And, okay, FEMA coffins. Creepy, I'll grant you that. But, keep in mind, these are casket LINERS - the box you put around a casket. Guess what happens when a cemetery floods? Caskets float. Caskets float, and they're not airtight. Take Hurricane Katrina as an extreme example: more than 1000 of them floated out of cemeteries that year. The good thing about these FEMA things, is they are water- and air-tight, and not all cemeteries require liners. They don't even all require embalming, either.
Also, being water- and air-tight means you could use them to store things OTHER than bodies, too. In my opinion, the evidence that this is nefarious is circumstantial at best.
Although, if you are really worried, and insist on "validity" of conspiracy theories, you could go with the conspiracy theory that the camps are for the purpose of thinning out the world population. So, think of this logically. Make yourself too valuable to be thinned. Be educated. Learn a skill. They're not going to get rid of people they could use. The thing they show in the movies, about lotteries to save people, or random people getting thinned out because they got off the wrong plane at the wrong time? Ha. You're not going to risk the future of a perfect society on a lottery. You are going to pick carefully. So be useful.
But honestly? Wouldn't you want to be a useful member of society anyway, even if there ISN'T a conspiracy?
ETA:
Oh, my. Oh my oh my oh my. No no no no no. I am merely parroting the most popular conspiracy theory du jour.
This is simply me, thinking that all I can do is be useful, and trying to share that small comfort. If it's all I can do, then it's all I can do. It's what gives me comfort, and I was merely trying to share. I'm sorry to give anxiety and misunderstanding.
But my main point is, that we should strive to be helpful and productive, whether or NOT we believe in conspiracy theories. There is nothing we can do about them, anyway. And being useful just feels good.
(And no, I don't think being useful means "employed." A person's worth is measured by much more than how much money they make, or don't. Even "They" should be able to see that. I hope so, anyway. I'm a SAHM. My only "employment" is volunteer work at my kid's school.)
I stopped reading and looking into some of these when I realized that there is, in fact, a whole group/faction/club/cult (what have you) that is open about being involved and trying to change things, known as: The New World Order...'they' are real...and 'they' admit it. Now what 'they' are doing or have done, I have no clue and like Riley J. said, I can not do anything about...so I stopped trying to look or care b/c really, it's more than a little frightening, ya know?
Blech!
The other conspiracy theory I wish someone would do all the research on, for me, cause its just too daunting, is the rumor that, basically 7 families own EVERYTHING and what have you, that one sounds un-realistic but intriging none the less?
Those conspiracy theories sound plausible...like an Oliver Stone movie. But the thing that always pulls me back from the brink of insanity is realizing how greedy people really are. No true conspiracy can exist for any length of time. Some greedy bastard will sell everybody else out for a million dollar book deal.
I run into more and more younger people who talk about the Illuminate as if they are in the living room, about the masons and all the presidents being one, about signs ( on money, in stores, everywhere ) and I think it is another 'sign' that we all know something is happening. I think it has made people want to search about what is happening. In all the searching some of the things are right maybe, some maybe exaggerated, some wrong. But the problem is we are not to fear those things really since they've been here for hundreds of years according to the research. We know the Bible says that things will get worse and worse so that is true. You say you are a Christian and place importance on after life with Christ, and so do I, so focus on the Truth and not the true or untrue things like Illuminate. They may be used to bring things to pass. They may not. It is so interesting though that so many are now talking about this like you say.
I believe in things many do not. Some are considered conspiracy theories and some are considered implausible by the masses but I beg to differ. After all are we all not a product of our own realities and perceptions? Do I believe in the Illuminate? In essence sure just as I know the masons are real and many others are as well but are not widely known to us regular folks. It is a fact of life that we, generalized, will never know the truth of the ins and outs of all that the planes of existence encompass.
I think whatever you believe is real and real to you...lol
You should read Christopher Buckley's "Little Green Men". LOL
I'm a little lost on this....I'm going to read some other posts....my husband loves conspiracy theories. He believes some and just enjoys others. It totally depends which ones and how quacky they are I guess-I'm not clear on what particular one you're referring to? Satanic Bible? Never read it. Illuminates? I'm in the dark here....
****Ok got it. Um. I don't delve into the conspiracies much because in the end, I won't really know. I'll say, hmmmm, which is true, the main stream explanation, or the "other" one. Now I don't know. So. I definitely don't believe everything I hear, and I am skeptical of stuff, I just don't find the conspiracy theorists any more trust-worthy really. And I HATE (my husband has a lot of these friends) when people will believe the conspiracy over what "the rest of us think" EVERY TIME. I think people get addicted to being contrary and paranoid to an extent. It makes them feel smart and they like drama.
I think that for many, many people reality is either far too boring and they need to liven it up with conspiracy theories. I mean, the JFK assassination for instance. It was one lone whackadoodle idiot wife abuser who hated JFK. He was a nobody. But people need it to MEAN something... after all, JFK was the PRESIDENT and everyone had passionate feelings about him, right? Whether he was loved or hated, he was extremely important. His death couldn't possibly be carried out by one lone nobody who just had a grudge.
Many people create these theories because they like and need to feel "in the know." If they know something important about something important, or show how something that's seemingly unimportant to everyone else is actually supremely important, then that increases their self-worth and prominence. Who doesn't love being in the position of, "I know something you don't know... let me let you in on a little secret! They only THINK we're being fooled but we're the smart ones and everyone else is STUPID! Too stupid to SEE THE TRUTH!"
What the heck are you people talking about?