Stepkid Woes

Updated on September 15, 2010
B.B. asks from Silver Spring, MD
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Just need to vent here… I don’t think I have ever known such a spoiled brat in my life as my 15 year old stepdaughter. The girl is a train wreck waiting to happen, because no one ever says “no” to her. She has a volatile temper and lashes out at anyone and everyone when things don’t go her way. Seriously – temper tantrums into her teens! My husband has always given her everything she asked for, put up with her hissy fits and total lack of respect for him, and tried very hard to keep things peaceful during his bimonthly visitations. I can understand that he wants his limited time with his kids to be pleasant, but he (and the mother is as much to blame) has created a monster! I know a lot of girls her age like to dress a little sexy, but she takes it to an extreme with skin-tight dresses and skirts that come up to her butt; and tight, low-cut tops with push-up bras. She has also posted hundreds of photos of herself in these outfits on her Facebook page, some with extreme close-ups of her rear end and cleavage. Since her mother is one of her FB friends, she must know, and obviously she doesn’t have a problem with it!
I guess what’s got me peeved this time is that recently she made a scene while we were out to dinner – got mad at her brother for some minor comment and started calling him and a---hole repeatedly. My husband told her to knock it off, and she verbally tore into him. Finally, he reached his breaking point. It ended up with him punishing her for her disrespectful behavior by temporarily suspending her cell phone service. (Yes, we pay for her phone, and unlimited texting to accommodate her needs). Well, I just found out that the next day, her mother got her a brand new phone! My husband thinks he’s teaching her a lesson, but his ex has to come along and undermine his authority. On top of that, all of his kids are now treating him like the bad guy for being so mean to their little sister! The ex has worked to undermine his relationship with his kids for years. I feel that I have to tell him about the phone, and he’s going to be very angry and hurt. How is he going to recover from this when he can’t even discipline his kids, and now they won’t even talk to him? Boy, it really is true that you reap what you sow!

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L.M.

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At 15 it is a bit late and the fact that the others are also treating him bad tells me it isn't just the 15 year old. He should know about the phone and should talk to his ex. He should also tell his daughter that regardless of the new phone, his punishment stands for whatever length of time he dictacted so she should hand over her phone. Something tells me that she won't and his ex won't support him but he should try. They should be able to co parent but that ship seems to have sailed a long time ago.

One school of thought is that the problematic family member isn't the only problem but rather the obvious symptom of disfunction within a family and the squeaking wheel gets the oil (in this case the attention...good or bad and the blame).

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M.P.

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I suggest that there is not much your husband can do at this point. He has visitation twice monthly. For how long? Unless she spends a couple of weeks with him each month, he has no workable way to now begin making and enforcing rules that will make a major change in the way she deals with life. It's too late to change her. But not too late to make life more bearable while she's in your home.

Are any of these children living with you? If not, I suggest that all of the kids are angry with their father for not having taken charge early in their lives and thus resent it when he tries to do so now. I encourage him to find a way of setting boundaries and giving natural consequences for them while they are in your home. Give consequences that do not require co-operation from her mother.

I do urge you to encourage him to be forceful in insisting that everyone be respectful of everyone at all times. Have a family meeting and talk about what respect involves, how we show respect, what counts as disrespect. Then.....tell them that there will be an immediate consequence for disrespectful behavior. In the restaurant situation, I suggest that the immediate consequence is that he drives her home. The rest of you finish dinner. He can come back to get you later. If you're at home, the immediate consequence is that she goes to her room and stays until she can come out and apologize for being disrespectful.

This will not be easy to enforce. You will have minutes, perhaps many minutes of a stare down. All action stops until she's in her room. He cannot physically force her to go to her room but he can make it uncomfortable enough that she will go.

The family meeting is most important in making this work. The siblings need to understand what is happening and stay out of it. And....if they're disrespectful they need to have the same consequence.

I say immediately because you know from experience that there is no way to stop her once she gets going. She is being unreasonable and needs to be stopped. The rest of the family deserves to be treated better than this. Why do her siblings think he's treating her unfairly? This needs to be discussed with them so that they understand the importance of respect.

Focus only the the issue of respect for now. Once she understands and is able to be respectful you might choose to talk with her about how dressing the way she does and posting the pictures she does is being disrespectful of herself and her body.

Are the other children, for the most part respectful? The brother that she attacked: did he think it was alright for her to talk with him that way? Why are they protective of her. Is she the only one having obvious difficulty? Perhaps the other children are step-siblings or live with you and she's the only one who visits?

I urge you to get family counseling. Start out with counseling for you and your husband so that you can support each other and build up your confidence in what must be done.

Because she doesn't live with you, I wouldn't expect that taking away things or privileges would be effective. As you said her mother can countermand the discipline. It sounds like her mother and father are not able to talk with each other and co-operate in managing their daughter's behavior. If that is the case, whatever your husband does must be something that she cannot undo.

He can stop paying for her phone service. Since her mother bought her new service, I recommend that he permanently end the service. This is an immediate consequence for the mother. Yes, we all, even adults, have consequences. I suggest that by permanently canceling the service he is letting his daughter know that he does follow thru on consequences and he's letting the mother know that even tho she doesn't back him and his discipline he will still discipline.

Because your husband has difficulty being firm, I urge you to take a parenting class with him. I also urge you to get and read the book Disciplining with Love and Logic by Foster Cline and .......

Surely, he has an incentive to change the way he treats her. We do usually have to get angry to change the way we handle things. Give him a lot of praise for what he did. Accept for now the anger that it takes for him to discipline. Once he becomes comfortable with the idea that taking a stand and requiring respect he will be able to do so with less anger.

He, as with lots of us, have the mistaken idea that if we just let things go that we can have peace. He's learning, the hard way, that ignoring his children's behavior does not create peace. Only having definite boundaries and consequences for when they're crossed creates peace. He's way behind with his daughter. Finding peace will take a long time but it will be worth it and is absolutely necessary for his daughter's and the whole family's welfare.

Julie L, I was ready to send a flower until I read your last sentence. Who is not at fault here? And what do you mean by fault. The mother, father, daughter are all responsible for their own actions. It is the parent's responsibility to teach their children to be respectful. I do not blame anyone but I do insist that everyone takes responsibility for what they did or did not do. It's only be accepting responsibility that we can see that we need to change what we're doing once we realize that what we have done was not effective. Placing blame, in my opinion, is not helpful. It only makes people feel guilty which then makes it more difficult for them to be productive. In this case both the birth mother and father as well as the daughter are at "fault."

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J.L.

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This is what divorce creates, I wish people would get the message. She is acting the way she is cause she's angry, she may not say it or show it, but i have seen it many times with my childrens friends who have divorced parents. It sounds like her dad is only in her life on visitation days, can't do much discipline like that. The parents of this young lady on not on the same page, are not working together, why would you even want to be a part of all this. Children (Most Children) hate to see their mom and dad with anyone but each other. She is not at fault here. J.

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This is what divorce creates, I wish people would get the message. She is acting the way she is cause she's angry, she may not say it or show it, but i have seen it many times with my childrens friends who have divorced parents. It sounds like her dad is only in her life on visitation days, can't do much discipline like that. The parents of this young lady on not on the same page, are not working together, why would you even want to be a part of all this. Children (Most Children) hate to see their mom and dad with anyone but each other. She is not at fault here. J.

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J.S.

answers from Chicago on

I'm sorry you are caught in the middle of this. And having been that rebellious teen, I can certainly relate to your step D's freak out over her dad changing the rules when the game is in the last quarter.

I agree with Marda that the least you can do right now is call a family meeting and discuss what it means to be respectful and disrespectful and consequences that will happen as a result of disrespectfulness. If her mom's going to pay for the cell service, then cancel the other one.

Unfortunately, there's not much to do at this point. I only wish that her dad would take a more active interest in his daughter. Even if he took her out to lunch with just them and actively listened without judgement to what's going on in her life. I'm assuming he does not if he only sees her twice a month.

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R.Y.

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I really don't know how you can improve the situation between your husband, his kids and their mother. If you have an okay relationship with the daughter you could take her aside woman to woman and explain to her she may not be sending the message she intends with the way she dresses and is opening herself up to unwanted attention like sexual harassment or worse. Also it can be very hard to to completely erase photos posted online. (Would she want to explain racy teenage pictures when she is 25 and trying to get a job?)

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M.L.

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Well, it's a sad situation and your husband has to deal with it. One day, when she hits rock bottom she may change, but all he can do is enforce discipline and be consistent. Creating rules for her in the house, and enforcing them.

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T.C.

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Hi B.,
You are in a tight spot, being the only parent with some common sense in this situation, but not being a biological parent.

*If* your husband is at a point where he finally sees the light, consider "Have a New Kid by Friday." Your DIL needs to learn to see she is a *part* of a family, NOT the ruling *DIVA.* It won't fix problems at her Mom's house, but it will easy your lives back to normalcy again.

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M.A.

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I second what Marda says about the counseling. In the meantime try the book "Boundaries".

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S.P.

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I hear ya sista. I have a step kid, 13 year old girl, and can she manipulate her Dad. As a step parent, you can want to discipline, and love your step child, but I found that the bottom line at this age is the biologocal parents are in control. That is because at this age, the tweens really need to hear it from them. Tweens are defining who they are, and alot of this is in relation to who they are with the family, especially their bioparents. They need to know their bioparent(s) love them and are setting the rules. Let's face it, we all feel safer with a strong leader who has consistent rules and can not be bullied or talked into anything we want. This is when, in a ideal world, the bioparent needs to take the lead and the step parent needs to back them up. And in this ideal world, the bioparent and step parent would agree on discipline, chores and other child rearing decisions. Is that what happens at my home? Well that would be NO. My husband allows the kid to make all decisions, he never diciplines her and he basicaly has asked me to step out of the parenting arena. Do I agree or like it? No. Was it getting ugly? Yes! It was ruining my life when she was there. I needed to decide if I wanted hostility in my home, and at this point I do not. She is his kid and for better or worse she will endure the consequences of his parental decisions. I do warn him quietly where she can not hear him when I think his decisions may harm her, but does he listen? No. At this time what they need from a step parent is neutral Switzerland who accepts them, and backs up Dad. I remember what she said when she was 6 years old, "Having 4 parents is hard!". And at 13 yrs old I suppose 4 parents is a nightmare! Take my word for it, try to practice being lovingly detached, and hand the reins over to Dad. It is not worth fighting or driving yourself crazy over, because no matter what we do, kids grow up. Good luck to you and find your peace with it.

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K.H.

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my answer, if the girl is a train wreck waiting to happen, get off the tracks, NOW. there is no better teacher then experence . if this girl sends close up pictures of her whatzit ( you know what i mean ) to every boy in the neighborhood, let her. and when she comes to you crying because she is pregnant and doesnt have the first clue who the father is, send her fat butt home to her mother, and tell her good luck, SOMEWHERE ELSE.if the child makes an a hole of herself when she is out with you, then you are under no obligation to take her along.if she dresses like she sells it when she is out with you, make no effort to deter some guy making comments about her, or the occasional guy who will try to cop a feel of some half dressed girl. trust me, nothing you say will have any effect on the way she dresses, she is doing this to embarass you. the first time some 50 year old man comes up to her and asks her "how much ?" she will suddenly decide to stop dressing like she sells it
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K.P.

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Did we switch families?? LOL. My step daughter is 16 and this sounds like her. She was a great kid for the most part until my husband and I had children together.

You don't go into the rest of the family structure (do you and her father have children together? Some of the issues that have been "read between the lines" on my part with my step daughter. Even at 16, there is a small glimmer of hope that their parents will get back together (even though they may both be happily remarried).

As the baby, she has been catered to by her parents, and her brother (and the other sibling(s)). Personally, I would tell my husband about the phone. It won't go over well, but it needs to be done. He also needs to explain to her mother why the phone was cut off (DD probably told mom that Dad didn't pay bill, got mad at her, or any other drama excuse).

Unfortunately, I have no words of wisdom except that the only thing harder than parenting is step parenting to a teenager. I would rather deal with the terrible 2's and 3's than the trying teenage years of a step child (and we have a pretty good relationship)

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S.H.

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You have my utmost sympathy! My 14 year old stepson is such a mess. He lives with my husband and I but every punishment I dole out gets swept under the rug. Don't do your homework = no TV but then I see him and dad watching a show! It's the 1 and only thing my husband and I argue about. I think my husband has been defeated by the years and years of being completely undermined by his ex who says my stepson is her "baby" and "can't help himself," etc. She is an utterly useless person who spends her days shopping and sleeping (living with her parents). It's really sad b/c my stepson is fully following in her footsteps. He acts like we are abusing him if we dare tell him to get off of his butt and do something around the house! I've already told my husband that I fully expect him to want to move back in at 40 like his mother did to her parents and he will have to choose which one of us stays b/c I'm not living with an useless adult!!! The truth is, you can't change a 15 year old. At this point her personality, habits, etc. have been formed and only she can perpetuate a change (and she's not willing to yet). Hang in there - she'll be pregnant or out of the house 1 way or another in 3 years or less (sorry but it's true!).

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C.J.

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You should let your husband know that the mother purchased the daughter a new phone. And while you are talking about that issue, let him know there is more you two need to discuss concerning the children especially the daughter. I agree with a lot of what Marda said in her post. Talking to your husband first and then both of you sitting down together and talking with the kids is very important. At least they will know that you two are in agreement as to the way things will be handled in your home. I agree with suspending the cell phone service all together. If she can’t respect you two, than she doesn’t need these extra privileges that are provided for her. Explain to her why the cell phone privileges are being suspended. Let her know that you know that her mother brought her a cell phone so there is no need in having two.

I don’t know your entire situation as to why the children do not respect him. If they will agree to sitting down talking things out maybe you can find out exactly what is bothering them and how the feel about things.

One thing you and your husband both need to agree on is that when the kids come to visit and it doesn’t matter that it’s only 2 times a month, they need to respect the rules of your house. I understand that she is a teen ager and it’s hard to change them once they reach that age. But they can show you two some respect. And if they can’t then you can implement punishments while they are there.

You must also create a balance with the children. Be sure that both of you, especially the father, are involved in their lives not just when they come to visit. If they are involved in school activities, you two should attend. Show them that you want to be a part of their lives as much as possible.

You and your husband should try talking to the mother as well. Find out how things are going on in her household with the kids. If the three of you never talk, it’s no telling what your step daughter could be telling her mother or her other siblings. Try to resolve this as much as you can by including her mother. And if she doesn’t agree than you and your husband work on ways to set some order in your household.

Be blessed!!

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