Stage 2 Breast Cancer

Updated on April 06, 2008
K.F. asks from Beaverton, OR
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I am very scared about this whole thing,I go in for a double mastectomy on the 16th of Nov. and my problem is my 22 yr old daughter that is in college my husband told her when I was diagnosed and she will talk to him but will not tell me anything about how she feels about all of this when I try to talk to her on the phone and if I bring it up she changes the subject really fast or says she has to go.My husband says he is not sure whether she will be here for my surgery,and I want to try and explain alot to her.so how can I do that

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Y.M.

answers from Portland on

Does she have email? An email might be right up her alley. Sort of her form of intimate communication these days.

You're scared. She's scared. She may be so scared for you that she thinks of your death often. In fact, she might even be mid-stream the grieving process eventhough you are not gone. The grieving process has no order. Most folks skip around from anger to denial to fear to letting go... in no sensical order.

Whenever I think of my Grandmother's early death (because of blood cancer due to poor overall health and fitness), I skip right into the anger automatically. I instantly get angry with her for leaving me and not taking better care of herself. I think that however you communicate to your daughter through email or phone call or personal visit, you should let her know that you don't want to leave her and you are doing everything you possibly can to be here for her as long as you can.

Do you believe in God? If so, I'd also tell her that it's only by his provision that you've been able to give her every good thing. God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. He will make a way, even if you are gone, to continue to give her every good thing. This kind of reassurance might help her to grab a hold of God for security instead of you so much.

It sort of seems like she is struggling with letting her grip on you go by just jerking away so quickly in the conversations with the avoiding and changing the subject. It's like as if she doesn't know how to let go in love... it's hard. And even under normal circumstances, at 22 years old, it's time to do that. This breast cancer thing is hitting at the very same time, normal letting go is happening. She's got a double dose of it up in her face right now.

I'd also let her know that you're letting go of the boobies... because they are not as important as the rest of you being around for her (heart, mind, spirit,).

And just even thinking about the "booby" thing... She nursed from those things, she's hugged them and snuggled them, and fell asleep on them. Maybe, she's angry that this terrible horrible thing CANCER (the big mean reaper) is steeling them away from the both of you. The mother child bond starts with the boobies and babies are dependent up on them to sustain their life. We just might not even understand through out a lifetime just how important they remain to be. She might have more attachment to you... as you are... soft and squishy... than you (or any of us) have understood.

Please, visit my son's website for some inspiration
http://huntersfirsthunt.tripod.com

If a little guy like him can kick the grip reaper's butt... you can.

God Bless, YM

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T.P.

answers from Seattle on

Hi K.,

I am sorry to hear about your diagnosis and the procedure your going to have to endure. But, I would ask you about how your handling this situation and when you speak to your daughter possibly she is picking up on your fear and anxiety about what is going to happen going forward with you and your health. I would recommend that if she is near you physically.. get her with you in person and just put your heart on the table and have a true heart to heart.
If she isnt near you physically or your relationship isnt a very close one where you can have a heart to heart and discuss how your both feeling and work through it in a positive fashion then I would say that writing your feelings down about everything your going through, and how you feel about the whole experience can be very beneficial to your healing and help her know where you are emotionally and physically and not feel the anxiety of discussing her fears with you one on one until she is ready.
My heart goes out to you and I hope she opens up her heart and steps outside of her box and you two can become closer with this experience. Many blessings and health wishes for a long happy and healthy future and know that you have lots of women cheering you on during your fight ~ Please know that you can reach out and be received in a loving embrace by women who've been affected by this cancer in some fashion. take care...

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A.

answers from Reno on

What I think is that your daughter is hesitant to talk to you about how she feels because she knows that you are scared. I believe that she's trying to be strong for you. Also, I'm sure she is very worried and scared herself. Maybe ask your husband to tell her how much you would like her to be with you during your surgery. Either that, or write her a letter. That might be easier for the both of you, as you aren't face to face. Be strong, my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. I know that we've never met, but let me know if you need anything. Email me, if you'd like. Even if it's just to vent.

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A.H.

answers from Phoenix on

I think she is scared of talking about it because she thinks it's gonna make you upset and she does not want to hurt you anymore then you already are. I think maybe you need to start the conversation with are you ok with what's going on with me? do you have any questions about it? let her know your here for her and you'd be happier if she'd talk to you about it. tell her you NEED her right now. and It would make you so happy to have someone to talk to about it. Maybe she'll open up. Make sure you stress the fact that your relaying on her for support and that you need her.

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T.H.

answers from Stockton on

Hi K.,
First of all there will be many of us praying for you and prayer WORKS! My mother was diagnosed with colorectal cancer which spread to her bladder, uterus and ovaries. She had a very long surgery, 8hours, and now nearly a year later she is in complete remission. Her lymph nodes were all negative and I believe this was due to her positive attitude and much prayer. I used to get mad at her when I was a teen for having "rose colored glasses" on all the time. Now I am so glad she did and I have picked up a pair for myself. Keep a positive attitude first and foremost.

As for your daughter, she is very young and at a difficult age to consider her mothers mortality. I don't know if I could have handled my moms diagnosis at her age. I am 43 now and I learned a lot about myself through my mothers journey. I was scared and I wanted to be there for her, but I didn't want to talk about it with her either. I didn't want her to hear my cry because I thought it would cause her to lose faith. I am a nurse and I was convinced that if I showed any fear she'd think I knew something I wasn't telling her.

She and my step-dad have been best friends and happily married for 35 years. He doesn't deal well with loss. He kind of does the ostrich thing. Therefore, I knew I would have to buck up and listen to what my mom had to say and save my crying for my private time. So I did. The things she said that hurt the most were also the things that made me realize that my mom is even more incredible than I thought. She would say,"I have had a wonderful life, I don't have any regrets, and if this is my time it's my time". God, I hated hearing her say that. I felt like she was giving up, but she wasn't. She was reflecting on a wonderful rose colored life. I believe it gave her strength. It seems like sometimes people focus on regrets when they're faced with loss. That makes life seem too short and I think can make us more angry feeling like, if I only had more time. My mom, for whatever reason, didn't get angry. I sure was. I didn't want to think of losing my mother. I wasn't ready! Are we ever ready?

I guess what I'm trying to say is that your daughter may be afraid that if she looses control of her emotions it will make you worry about her. Does she have e-mail? Could you e-mail her and tell her she doesn't have to talk about it, but that you'd really like her there for your surgery? She may be able to start talking about it with you online. That way you won't be able to see the fear in her eyes or her tears. Once you get started, I'm sure she'll come around.

The other thing that I feel is so very important is that we each deal with loss in our own ways, whether the loss is actual or perceived as a threat of loss. There is no one right way. Could you let her know it's okay to deal with this the way she must? Some people have to talk it out, kick, scream, cry until they are just sick of dealing with it and then they start to reach acceptance and move forward. Others, deal with grief in spurts. Some people don't appear to deal with it outwardly at all. All of these ways are okay, as long as you get through it. Recent studies are showing that some people cope with life much better when they just move forward. It doesn't mean that they don't care, it's just how they survive best. It gets complicated when someone we love and need deals with things the opposite from ourselves.

My advice would be to think of how your daughter has handled grief or loss in the past. She will probably deal with this the same way, just as you will likely deal with this the way you have dealt with other issues. If you are the main person she has come to to talk about her fears she probably feels like she is alone. You and I know she isn't, but she probably feels that way.

Are you close enough to any of her girlfriends to talk with them so they can open the door for her to talk about her feelings with them? If she has never been a talker she probably won't be now, even if you need her to be.

If you need to talk it out you may need to do it in a support group or with friends or family, for now. She will come around in time. The important thing is that you don't miss out on today with her.

I say this because...while my mom was in the ICU after surgery my dad went to bed and passed in his sleep unexpectedly. Here my mom was the one I thought I might lose and I missed time with my dad. Life's strange, isn't it? Neither of my parents had ever been sick. What I have learned is that we all have today. There are no guarantees and life is what we make it in this moment.

I wish I could give her a big hug, and you too. You're both hurting and need each other so much. You may both need the very same things expressed in different ways. For example, my son wouldn't talk about my mom or the loss of my dad. I was worried because society has taught us we need to talk about it! Dr. Phil, Oprah etc... The night of my dad's memorial he was lying on the bed crying and I thought it was the time to reach out to him. I wanted him to know I understood his pain so I said, "I know you're hurting, he was your grandpa and he was my dad." Wouldn't you know he took the remark all wrong. He thought I was saying he couldn't possibly be hurting as much as I was. Sometimes, as hard as we try, we just don't know how to reach out to someone in a way they need us to. My son just needed to cry and be held. I needed to talk and I assumed he needed the same thing I did. You and you daughter just might need different kinds of support right now. You'll find your way to each other, just give it time.

I am here to chat whenever, you need to. You can IM me. I'll send my e-mail on a private message. In the mean time, I'll be praying for you and your daughter to find the support you need. She'll be there. Most importantly, I know God will guide the hands of your surgeon. He is still a god of miracles. Look at my mom!!!
Love,
T.

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D.O.

answers from Anchorage on

I would recommend writing her a letter about everything that you would like to say to her. I know that a letter, to some, may be inpersonal, but if she changes the subject that fast, then I believe it would be the right way to go.

GOod luck and my prayers are with you.

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P.L.

answers from Boise on

K. my name is P.. I just read your comment and I just want to say that your in my prayers. I have gone through some breast scares and they still don't know what it is and right now it has gone away hopefully for good. In a way I can understand your daughter and that shes very scared and doesn't know how to react. Be strong and put on your good face and maybe she will feel a little safer knowing how strong you are.

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C.B.

answers from Provo on

Dont let it bother you! She is probably scared and handling it the way she thinks is best. Perhaps after the surgery and all is well with you she will come around.

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H.J.

answers from Pocatello on

K.-God Bless you and your family thru this dificult time. Your daughter just isn't ready to face you mortality and maybe her own. She'll be there for you! Just give her time. She'll come around. H.

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B.S.

answers from Reno on

I'm sure your daughter doesn't want to face the situation. She may be worried of talking with you about it because she doesn't want to burden you with her fears and feelings. I agree with these people, I would write her and let her know the things you want to say. This may help her realize you need her right now. As for her talking about her feelings, maybe she just isn't ready. She will when she is ready. You are in my prayers. God Bless.

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K.O.

answers from Portland on

Your daughter is probably as scared as you are, and is just having a hard time talking about her feelings. I think a letter or email is a great idea. You are in my thoughts. :)

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C.L.

answers from Las Vegas on

I was about your daughter's age when my mom was diagnosed with a rare form of cancer. What everyone else is saying is correct. Your daughter doesn't want to upset you, and may be wondering if this is what is in store for her future. Contact her, howver you can and just let her know that you want and need to she how SHE is doing, and that you need to do this before you have your procedure.
My pray for her is that she comes around to you.
My pray for you is to heal quickly, physically and emotionally.
My the surgeons hands be steady and strong.
My G-d watch over all of you and lift you up during this time of need.

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