Sleep Issues with 3 1/2 Year Old!

Updated on September 04, 2011
T.W. asks from Norwalk, CA
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I'm at my wit's end! I've written over the course of 3 1/2 years regarding my daughter's sleep issues, and although I appreciate all the advice, she is STILL having the same issues!

Here's the rundown w/out making this question too long:
-no changes in her whole life
-very little sugar received during the course of the day
-tried to set a routine her whole life; bedtime between 8-9 and up by 7-8 (when she sleeps through the night)
-temp of her room is always comfortable, around 70 and I use black out curtains
-she always goes potty before bed
-no daytime naps. Those were gone by 3!

My daughter has been waking up around 2 in the morning, and stays up until about 9am, then goes to sleep for 2 hours.
I'm very concerned with her developmental health, and needless to say, I'm exhausted.

I've asked before, but does anyone know/recommend sleep experts for children. I know we all feel at some point that our kids have sleep issues, but mine really does. This is not normal.

Someone please offer advice :/

Thank you!

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S.F.

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Davis Erhler with '3 day sleep solution.' I consulted with her and she will have her sleeping in no time! She is the best, highly respected and will do phone or in-house consults. I believe her website is 3daysleepsolutuon.com. Good luck!!!

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S.W.

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I think there are sleep experts for children. I would talk with your doctor if you haven't already to get a referral. I don't have anyone to recommend.

I see that you have tried a lot of things. Have you tried sleeping with her? In the same bed.

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K.S.

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Have you tried having her sit on the toilet before bed? Sometimes kids get up in the middle of the night because they feel the urge to go. Also my daughter could not take a nap. Most kids can by mine couldn't. If she did she'd either be up to midnight or waking up in the middle of the night. She had naps cut real early lol. Also whats the temp of the house. Maybe she is a tosser and is kicking the blankets off and then wakes up at 2 cause she is cold? And finally we found we had to make sure she had plenty of running around during the day.

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J.R.

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Elizabeth Pantley, author of no cry sleep solution books has a facebook page. On it is her email. Write to her. She is lovely and gives good advice.

Best of Luck.
Jilly

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A.J.

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aside from possible pediatrician advice/help reach out to Jill Spivak! and get her over to your house. http://www.sleepyplanet.com/

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C.B.

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http://www.amazon.com/Solve-Your-Childs-Sleep-Problems/dp...
This is the book by Ferber which addresses all kinds of sleep issues, up to and including night terrors, sleep walking, apnea, etc, as well as method for how to make infants and toddlers sleep through the night.
Will she sleep through the night if you are in another bed in the same room? For my daughter there was a period when she would naturally wake up but instead of rolling over she would start to listen to house sounds and get scared. If I was in the same room with her she would fall asleep again since she felt safe. We added window alarms and after sleeping with her for about 2 weeks I left the extra bed in her room but stated I may sleep in my own bed tonight. Since my husband snores like an outboard motor (allergies but her refuses to take meds) I did not mind sleeping with her. So after she slept through a few day without me in her room, I think she realized she could just fall asleep and all would be well. Our house is also fairly small so the 3 bedroom doors are all on a hallway that is maybe 10 feet long, so even if I am not in her bed she can almost see me (and certainly hear her daddy!). Get the book from the library to review it but I ended up buying a copy to review when issues arose between birth and about age 10.

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K.M.

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I have no suggestions other than what does the pediatrician say? That is a brutal schedule for you.. I can't even imagine.

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jeez i would be at my wits end too..well at 3.5 i moved my son into my bed and co-slept..but i was single..then he started sleeping in ...do u have blackout curtains and a sound machine? i wouldn't let her nap at 9am..my son ended naps at 3..now he is 5..i make sure he gets a lot of exercise..we hike ..he's in yoga class..we're always out and about..he now sleeps in the room right off of my room..so he's almost in our room..(now i have a boyfriend) then at about 5am or so..he will wake and come into our bed and sleep in til 9am...i do let him stay up late..10:30pm..sometimes later..but this will end when school starts..
for one week before i let him co-sleep at 3..i put a lock on his door so he couldn't get out and did CIO ..yep had to do that b/c he was waking around 3am or 4am and would be up...all this b/c he wanted to watch cartoons..i just couldn't live like that..so the lock went up..and he had to go back to bed..then i decided to just have him co sleep..and that was the best thing..i put a long body pillow between us so he couldn't kick me all night
now he still flails sometimes but i'm used to him coming in ..and we all get sleep..
so u may want to try to co sleep..at least for awhile so she gets used to sleeping in..u can train her that way..

my son will wake and ask.."is it still goodnight time?" i say "yes it is" and he goes back to sleep..but i have the blackout curtains so u can't really tell..and i run 2 sound machines and a fan..

now to get him to bed one of us has to go in and tell him 2 stories..we have to make them up..and we always make him the main character..then he falls asleep with some snuggling..

hope this is somewhat helpful..also black cherry juice is good for sleep

xo

D.

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C.L.

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What do you do with her at 2am?
My twin girls are 3 and 1/2 and are doing the same thing. Bed at 8ish wake up at 5:30am. They wake up most nights (one or the other), they come to my bed. If it is just one I usually just let her in with us. When/if the second one shows up everybody goes back to their own beds. One one occasion my husband and I just moved to their beds after they were asleep LOL!
All I can say is try and keep the house dark and quiet. find out why she is staying up and let her know it is time to sleep when it is dark outside.
Be firm and consistent. If you want her in her bed keep bringing her back there. Sometimes I will lay down with my daughters when I send them back to their own beds. (just less drama)
In your situation I would keep her up at 9am. Take her for a walk, color, anything that keeps her from sleeping! You didn't mentioned if she also takes an afternoon nap... if she does she may be getting too much daytime sleep.
Our girls still nap 12:45is-3ish but sometimes they skip it. bedtime is easier but I have not seen any correlation with the night waking.
Good luck! Let me know if you want/need any more ideas.

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