Potty Training -- 2 Specific Questions

Updated on April 14, 2011
J.S. asks from Kalamazoo, MI
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On Day 6 of Potty Training with my DD and she's doing pretty good. But 2 specific questions:

1. How do you avoid girls peeing "forward" where it shoots out the front of the toilet, spraying their pants, etc. I've told her to lean forward, putting her hands on her knees but we're still having trouble 2x. I also try to make sure she's sitting far enough back on the trainer seat, but perhaps she's not getting all the way back.

2. How to curtail the potty requests that are an avoidance of going to bed? Meaning, she uses the toilet (sometimes successfully sometimes not) and I put her to bed, and 10-30 minutes later she's out of bed telling me she has to use the toilet (in so many words). I don't want to discourage her from telling me/requesting to use the potty, but 80% of the time she doesn't go and I think she's just avoiding going to sleep.

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V.W.

answers from Jacksonville on

Yep. I just pretty much gave in with the going to sleep avoidance trips. At first. After about 4 or 5 nights in a row, of her getting up MORE than once after she was already in bed.... I just started letting her know (from the other room where I was) that it was fine. Try and then get back in bed. She didn't get an audience standing nearby while she 'went' to give her someone to talk to, she didn't get re-tucked into bed. It only took about 2 nights of me letting her do it alllll on her own (actually NOT doing anything, lol) before she stopped getting back out of bed over and over. The novelty wore off and the lack of an audience were big factors, but I think the bigger factor was that I didn't re-tuck her into bed.

As for the peeing into the panties b/c it shoots out the front... lol. Yeah. We had that problem alot too. You didn't say how old your daughter is, but mine was only about 2 when she was learning. It was a constant struggle with that issue. In fact, she was SO good at the pottying that the only reason I ever took spare clothing with us when we left the house, was b/c of the spraying issue. Leaning forward is the first thing I'd try, but it has been many years now since my little girl learned (she's almost 10! ). Maybe she could play the little piggies game with her toes, to help her get far enough 'over'? I also think it has more to do with how they hold their hips than how far they lean over. If she arches her back like a cat, it might help, because it'll rock her hips forward and down rather than back and up.... Once you figure out the "sweet spot" where it doesn't spray, then you just have to teach HER how to remember it. Fun Fun Fun! :)

But you'll figure it out. Fear not. In the meantime, perhaps folding up a few extra squares of toilet tissue and holding it right there will at least catch some of it so that her clothes don't get soaked. Yeah... you'll get some on your hands...but they wash easier than the clothes. ;)

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A.V.

answers from Washington DC on

I haven't had the trouble of DD peeing over the seat. Make sure she sits far enough back. If there is a pee guard, consider using it. It's for boys, but I think the placement helps my DD sit right (it's not removable on our seat).

I also had the potty before bed requests. I would have her sit on the potty for a few minutes anyway, and then put her back to bed. It stopped being a novelty after a while. I read to her or something to get her to sit longer during the day, but at night when I think she's stalling, she gets no story. It's just boring old sitting.

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S.H.

answers from Honolulu on

1) teach her to push down on her front area to then make the pee stream go down into the toilet. So it aims, down.
It did that with my daughter.

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L.P.

answers from Pittsfield on

I just went through the same thing with my DD last week. She actually stopped wanting to use the potty because she would either get the front wet or somehow it would go slightly to the side and would run along the seat to her thigh and get her wet.

I started sitting her back as far as possible, showed her to put her legs together, and lean forward a little. That solved the problem. She automatically puts her legs together and leans forward, but she can't seem to get far enough back by herself yet.

About problem # 2, just try to make it as un-exciting as possible (don't get into a conversation with her, for example). I think the novelty will wear off.

If it doesn't, you could offer her some type of treat, if you want, in the morning if she stays in bed (even reading a story). You could tell her it's ok to go to the bathroom if she really has to go, but if she doesn't actually pee, no treat.

Good luck :)

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K.R.

answers from San Diego on

1) put her legs closer together, lean fwd. My daughter likes to hold the counter or TP roll for balance. I think the problem lessened when she stopped using the trainer seat and just started using the adult seat. Is there a difference if she sits at the front vrs on the side? worth a try.

2) My daughters learned those tricks too--I "NEED" a drink of water or "HAVE" to go potty (3x!). haha! I wouldn't want to tell her NO to potty unless it were like 3x in a row. Probably best to allow it for now and just minimize how much attention she gets at bedtime hour (stand further away/out of the room, don't smile...)

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H.W.

answers from Portland on

I think everyone gave you excellent advice. The lack of attention when stalling at night will nip it in the bud, some kids will respond more quickly than others.

The only suggestion I have is that if she's having a hard time after trying some other ideas, see if sitting backward on the potty will work better for her. Sometimes, for some kids, it's a matter of balance. I personally have seen the girls I care for have a harder time with trainer seats than boys, and tend to spray in front.(Boys have the advantage of seeing where everything is going to go, girls don't.) They don't always know how to get their hips to move into the right position, and then their legs are often stuck out farther than they usually would be, rendering it all the more difficult. A little potty is preferable, just because it accomodates their shorter legs. And if a little potty just won't work in your home, consider letting her do it backward for a while. I've seen a lot of success with this method for children who were having trouble with this.

Wishing you much patience!:)
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D.W.

answers from Philadelphia on

I would at this point just have her take off her pants and underware. I did this when my son first trained. It did help until he got the hang of it. It is going to take some time. Get a step stool for her. Sometimes,they like there feet to planted solidly. I would say if the trainer seat is a nuisance then try to have her go without it. I would tell her too i regards of peeing before going to bed to have a routine,brush your teeth and go potty. Make a chart for her. If she is good she gets a gold star if she does not get out of bed. I would then go and buy her a treat at the end of the week if she does well. Good luck you are doing well.

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