Overbearing son....help

Updated on July 22, 2009
T.G. asks from Providence, RI
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Calling All Moms...I'm sending out a 911....
I have 3 children and the youngest is a boy (10) who has become a bit overbearing. He is very manipulative and won't hesitate to lie to get what he wants. He will yell and call his sisters names until they give in or call me to correct him.

It's always someone elses fault, he never takes resposability for his part in anything. He is continuously combative when he is caught and then cries. He is extremely bright, an honor student but also disruptive in class (a regular know-it-all). Shockingly he seems to have lots of friends.

I am a single parent and his father is "the yes man". I have had numerous conversations with his father about his behavior and how he is not helping if he is not holding him acountable for his actions when he takes him for a visit. When he comes back he is worse so I had to limit the visits to once a week.

He attempts to push the envelope with me but overall I am the only one listen to. Help!!!! I can't be everywhere!!!!

Thank's
T. G.

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D.B.

answers from Boston on

Unfortunately, I don't think you can do much about his father and what he allows. You just have to be really clear about what is acceptable in your house. However, some of it could be due to the disruption of transitioning from one home to the other - this is hard for kids even if the parents have similar styles. He could have some emotional stresses of missing one parent when he's with the other, and those are very common in children of divorce. It's a hard decision to limit visits with the non-custodial parent especially if you have visitation orders in place, so be careful if you are possibly going to be in contempt of a court order.

If he does this stuff in school, you could chat with the teachers about what consequences and even disciplinary language can be used in both places. You need to figure out what your son values, and make that the "currency" for his behavior. Take away what he wants when he behaves badly, and be sure to give it back when he behaves properly. ALso decide what the key behavior issues are for you, and then concentrate on them. For example, if lying is the biggest no-no, then be sure the most severe consequences apply to that. Maybe pick one other thing to work on - maybe yelling? Get his sisters to try to let go of some other behaviors and just refuse to tolerate these 2-3 key ones you are focusing on. Be sure that your son sees that you don't tolerate those behaviors in the sisters either. "There's no lying allowed in this house" is better than "YOU have to stop lying to your sisters." Good luck!

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N.D.

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First of all, you are doing a great job, keep it up. No matter how you feel right now, you are doing great. To work and take care of three children is A LOT to ask of one person. I commend you. About your son, all I can say is be vigilant. Be consistent. Don't give in to the temptation of just giving him what he wants and do hold him accountable and follow through. I know it is tough, but you will look back in 6 years and thank God you did. I have a 32, 31, 18 and 16 year old, I do know. Right now between 10 and 18 are the toughest years you will go through with your children. Stay focused and strong. I will pray for you, and thank you for the hard work you are doing to make better adults in the world.

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M.C.

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Hi T.,

I think it is sad that he is only seeing his dad once a week, especially if Dad is otherwise a good man who really does love his son. It's just the transition which is hard for your son. My oldest bonus daughter (14) gives her bio mom a really hard time when she comes home from visits at our house because she misses us and wants more time with us. I tell her she needs to be polite and respectful when she goes back home because we will be blamed if she cops an attitude, you know, "Why are you always such a brat when you come home from your dad's?" when really we had nothing to do with it! More often than not, though, she will say she has an attitude all the time because she doesn't like it there, and that her other family will just have to deal with it, so there's attitude upon her return and we get blamed. I hate that!

With my other bonus daughter we had a lot of trouble with that when she would come home (lives with us) after spending time with her bio mom. She just missed her mommy and was upset that she couldn't spend all the time in the world with her, even if she visited almost every day and/or had sleepovers. It was hard on us but we tried to be as supportive and understanding as possible and not to blame her for the feelings she had as a result of the transition between households. It's normal for a kid to have a hard time unless the parents absolutely agree on everything with regards to parenting...and then, they'd still be together most likely!

Maybe this is your son's way to say he misses his dad and wants to spend more time with him. If Dad truly isn't disciplining him, then that's one thing, but if he is just disciplining in a way different from yours that's another animal. Dad is not you, and you are not him, so of course there are two different sets of expectations, rules, consequences, etc. for your son. If yours and your ex's are completely different, you can work with Dad on a set of common rules and consequences for the "big stuff" (i.e. hitting gets T.V. taken away for the day, lying about homework gets you grounded) and it will be easier for everybody. As a mom of three you know kids thrive on consistency; if the households are very different, maybe this is your son's way to push the envelope with BOTH parents to see what he can get away with at each household. It could be his way to vy for your attention, too...if you're working full-time already and also still have your oldest two daughters to take care of (and all their teenage problems, glorious!) your son may be feeling very left out. He may even be misbehaving at Dad's so you will pay attention to him when he comes home.

I'm sorry my advice is so negative, I just know how hard it is for kids when they have two households. As I am married to a great dad who has struggled for years with the every-other-weekend visitation schedule, I tend to lean toward kids spending more time with their fathers (as long as they're good dads). I hate to say it but fathers really do get shafted in court unless there is something very wrong with the mother's situation--that's a lot of power for you to have, and I hope you use it responsibly instead of blaming all your son's challenging behavior on his father. Especially now, as your son is becoming a man, he's going to need his father more and more for guidance and role modeling. Please work with your ex on how to make the transition easier for him instead of limiting him to a couple hours a week with his father!

--M.

P.S. Could it be, also, that he feels alone as the only male in a household full of women? I know it drives me nuts when my daughters are at their mothers' and it's just me, my husband and our two sons...the boys are only three and five, but you can still cut the testosterone with a knife!

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A.E.

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My son who is now 13 was alot like this so much so that we went to a therapist who thought, and rightly so, that my son was seeking attention. Children will look to get attention anyway they can even if it's by acting up and getting in trouble. So we set boundaries for him - no lying,swearing, hitting etc and if he did any of those we would calmly tell him "in our house it is not Ok to lie, hit, swear etc" but we would not give him alot of attention or make too much of a fuss. We did start 'fussing"over the good things he did - putting good test grades on the fridge, praising him for cleaning his room or being polite. We changed our attitude towards him , before we would look for what he was doing wrong to punish him, now we look at what he does right to praise him for it and it has made a big difference, he's not perfect but there isn;t as much tension and he behaves much better. it's tough working and having 3 kids but if you could spend some time with him doing something fun - try to find something that he can't mess up and do something wrong, play catch, watch him do tricks on his bike etc Maybe your 18 year old could take him for an ice cream or something. It isn;t easy for him either always being the one who does something wrong - he's just gotten himself stuck in that role and you have to help him get unstuck.

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J.R.

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Not sure if this will help, but I have a 9 year old boy and he does the typical 9 yr old stuff, yelling at his sister, sometimes being mouthy to us, his parents and sometimes just being naughty. The way we handle this is that we give him one warning for the whole day and I'll tell him if I have to talk to you again for ANYTHING I will take time off of his bedtime. It's usually 10:00pm for summertime, depending on the action will depend on the time taken away. Yelling is usually 10 minutes because that happens alot around here. Then I absolutely follow through, he has to be in bed, no lights, no books, no ds. just lay there. This has helped us very much and have now started doing it with our 6 yr old daughter. good luck. if you dish out the punishment stick to it and he will soon enough realize he doesn't want to go to bed soo early.

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