My Son Will Not Actually USE the Potty!!!

Updated on January 10, 2008
S.H. asks from Minneapolis, MN
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Hi Mamas,
I know this is a hot topic lately, and I've read all your responses to similar requests, but I still need some help. I'm sorry, but I'm sure this is going to get long because it's been a long process and I'm soooo frustrated. Thanks in advance for your advice.

My son is 2.5 and is VERY interested in the potty. He has always been interested in it to some degree, but in the last 6 months or so has been more interested in the actual details of what goes on there. Last summer we had a few successes (mostly on vacation, strangely enough) with him sitting on the potty and actually peeing and, with some very good timing, even a poop making it's way into the potty. I got excited and read up on some things, including a potty in a day book using a "potty party" and lots of rewards.

In my reading, I learned that he wasn't quite ready to start the actual learning. He had some signs, but he really didn't care about wet or dirty diapers and he never told me when his diaper felt icky to him. So I left it alone, knowing (hoping!) he'd let me know when he was really ready.

Last month he declared one morning that he did not want to wear diapers. I had big boy pants on hand and some pull-ups for outings and night time, as suggested in the potty book I had read. So we tried it. I dutifully sat him on the potty for 10 minutes here and there. We read books, we sang songs, we had toys, and no pressure. He even got a little star sticker just for trying. Without fail, he would pee within about 5 minutes of getting off the potty. I would change his clothes, remind him that he needs to tell me before he has to go so we can make the pee go in the potty, etc. He refused to poop for an entire day (usually goes 1 or 2 times daily) and went the next day in a pull-up while we were at school. It was very hard and uncomfortable for him because he had held it so long. Usually he poops so easily, I don't even know he's done it til I smell it. (Another potty learning challenge to overcome someday.) We did this song and dance for a couple of days until the 3rd morning when he decided that he didn't want to tell me before he went potty, so he should wear diapers again for awhile.

So back to the diapers. No issues, and he still didn't really care if he was wet or dirty. I figured it was good practice and was a little relieved to not have a new potty user during the chaos of the holidays.

And now up to the last several days:
He has been telling us as soon as he pees in his diaper and asking, if not demanding, to be changed. He tells me he can't play or do something because he has pooped or peed and he needs to be changed. In the last 2 days, he has started to want to get the wet/dirty diaper off and sit on the potty, but he's just gone in the diaper and doesn't have anything to put into the potty.
Today my husband told him they needed a break from cars because my husband had to go potty. My DS declared that he also needed to go potty. DH went and got out the potty chair so they could go together, but DS refuses to sit on anything but the regular potty (another frustration for us because of our bathroom set-up). I ended up sitting in the main bathroom with our son while my husband actually got to go in peace downstairs. Not a huge deal at all. However, not 2 minutes after getting off the potty and getting a fresh diaper, DS says "I peed! I want to sit on the potty!" DH took him in, reminded him that we need to know before he pees, and sat him on the potty. His diaper was SOAKED. I don't know how he could've held it that long, especially while sitting on the potty.

So, really long story short: We have an interest in the potty, accompanied by a desire not to be wet or dirty/smelly, and a knowledge of what it means to pee and poop and what it feels like after it happens. He has no issues with sitting on the big potty for 10 minutes or more; he just won't actually use the potty. My husband is handling this better than I am, which is a change from the norm, but he's getting frustrated, too, and has declared that he's going to start pushing using the potty chair instead of the seat, which I'm not sure I'm comfortable with. Any advice, commiseration, tips, reassurance or input of any kind would be much appreciated. I feel a little better just putting it all out there. Thank you!!

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K.R.

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Sounds like you're getting frustrated, and I can completely understand! My oldest was 3 1/2 when he finally learned, and it was a frustrating process for us, mostly I think because I didn't know what to do to help him.

Generally, it sounds like you're doing everything right. He's showing the signs of being ready to learn and is learning to recognize the signals from his body. It sounds like you have a "potty chair"; we tried that and then switched to the big potty. For some reason, he preferred it, and it was one less thing in our small bathroom. But either way is just fine. You might want to check out the book I eventually used, which was "Toilet Training Without Tears." It has lots of great advice on the entire process, and one of the things that helped up most was an Elimination Chart. I noted the times of wet and dirty diapers, potty "tries," and using the toilet. It helped us to see his pattern and get him there at the right times, and he really loved getting to put stickers on the chart (at first every time he tried, then we switched to every time he went on the potty, and finally for a few weeks it was a sticker for every day with no accidents).

We had a similar problem, with getting off the potty and immediately peeing. And I've seen it with other kids too (I do day care and am potty training several kids all the time, it seems). With my son, books helped, since they seemed to take his mind off what he was doing so he could relax a little. Another little girl I know actually used to sit and sing a song: "Re-lax. Let the potty out." She would sing very slowly with deep breaths to "let the potty out." It seemed to help her a lot to avoid the tensing up when she sat down.

Finally, if you want to try it, the thing that really did it for us was a few days of "bare butt." After my frustration with treating pull-ups like diapers and cleaning what seemed like hundreds of pairs of underpants, I finally undressed him from the waist down (but it was summer, so it might be less practical now). I had to keep a very close eye on him, of course, but as soon as that potty started to come, we would race to the bathroom. At first, there was a lot of cleaning up messes, but it only took a week or two to see a marked difference. And I didn't worry about poop accidents, especially since the Elimination Chart helped to know when to get him in there anyway.

I hope some of that helped. This can be very frustrating, I know, and you're not alone. Good luck!

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C.O.

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The Cheerio target idea is a great one!
With my older when we thought he was ready I sat him on the potty every 30 minutes for an entire day. We bought him Thomas underwear that he picked especially for potty training and told him that he had to pee and poop in the potty so Thomas would stay clean. Since he loves Thomas it worked really well and we didn't have a single accident. Later, after the novelty wore off he had a couple accidents so we told him that when Thomas gets dirty we have to throw him away. That got him "back on track".
Since you have a baby on the way you can tell him that because he's such a big boy now he can use the potty and let the baby have the diapers. If he feels like it's a privilege to pass them on he might be less willing to soil them.
Last idea: I babysat a little girl who knew everything your son does and still used her diaper instead of the potty. One day, while changing as especially potent diaper I told her, "This is disgusting! Do you smell the stinky? Do you like the stinky on you?" Of course, she said no so I continued, "I don't like changing stinky diapers and I don't want to do it anymore. It's gross! You're a big girl now and you need to put the stinkies in the potty, not in your diaper. No more pooping in diapers!" I know it sounds mean but the next day her mom said, "I don't know what you told her but she only wants to wear panties and has been using the potty all day."
Good luck! I've got a little over a year before I have to potty-train my little guy and I'm not looking forward to it. =)

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G.J.

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Try putting Cheerios in the toilet and tell him to pee or poop on them- use them as a 'target' (even if he is sitting to go potty)
I know they sell 'potty targets' somewhere, but Cheerios work just as well.
For some reason that worked for my oldest son.
however, my 2 1/2 yr. old refuses as well. "do you need to go poopy?" 'No...' "Are you sure?" SHakes head No.
swear to you, less than a minute or 2 later he reaks...
"Did you go poopy?" 'No'... "You're gonna get a sore butt... Did you poop?" still respond, 'no'!!!!!
I haven't been trying too hard yet, but, man, you'd think after having a sore butt after us not discovering a poop for awhile would give you a little incentive to try the toilet anyway.
Good luck to ya.

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A.W.

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When I was potty training my son he would not sit on the potty chair. Instead he took the cup from the chair and would pee in that but would never poop in it. He also would want to use the big potty so I just let him and he was happy and started going to the bathroom all the time. I have a 2 yr old daughter right now that I am trying to potty train and I decided to skip the the potty chair and bought her one of those cushion seats for the regular toilet so she won't fall in. She loves sitting on it and feeling like a big girl so now we are working on her being able to know when she has to go. Good luck!

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