Having Trouble Breastfeeding, Need Some Advice

Updated on March 18, 2009
K.S. asks from Denver, CO
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Ok, so I just had my baby girl on Wed the 11th, she did really good at first with the breatfeeding. But then they found out her jaundice levels where high and we had to start supplementing with the formula. ever since then she has been having a hard time. She will latch on but, take a few sucks and then she seems uninterested. We have still been giving her formula because we want her to be healthy. I've also been pumping and giving that milk to her. I thought maybe she wasn't taking to the breast because they are engorged and may be to big for her. I don't know what to do.
Should I keep trying to breast feed her or should I just let my milk dry up and just formula feed her? I don't want this to be one of those things that she only is going to be like this for a week or so and then be ok with the breastfeeding, but then not have any milk to give her, but I also don't want to keep pumping if she is never going to breastfeed.
I want to enjoy my time with her rather than worry about this, seeing as it is a major thing, it is what is worrying me the most.
Please give me your advice. I would really appreciate it!

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S.T.

answers from Salt Lake City on

For whatever reason when my son was about a week old he decided that he would not take one breast the other he did fine. I tried everything I could think of. I called my pediatrician and he got me in touch with a lactation specialist. I went over and she showed me some things I could do and within two days he was back to normal. Women who are lactation specialist know their stuff! They can help most of the time as long as you are patient and dedicated to breastfeeding. It does suck sometimes, but I found sticking with it well worth it. Good Luck!

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B.

answers from Boise on

K., Keep trying! Keep trying! Keep trying! Don't give up- it WILL work itself out! Just will be challenging in the beginning!

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M.C.

answers from Salt Lake City on

Please contact La Leche League. They helped me so much with my first and we had every breastfeeding problem in the book. Also, I have found in my experience that doctors know next to nothing about breastfeeding. Jaundice in most cases is NOT a reason to stop breastfeeding. You can find a lot of good information on kellymom.com too.

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H.W.

answers from Denver on

Hi K.,

You are doing the best you can for your new little girl, Madison! Congratulations! If you want to breastfeed, there are La Leche League leaders available by phone 24 hours a day, and meetings near you. The Denver Metro phone line # is ###-###-####. The website to find a group near you is http://www.llli.org/WebUS.html. Leaders can help guide you through proper latch technique. There is a great video showing proper latch and positioning here: http://www.ameda.com/breastfeeding/elibrary/videos.aspx.

You can pump a little before Madison nurses: this will do two things - help "deflate" your engorged breast a little, and get Madison to the let down stage, where your milk flows faster, like she's used to with the bottle. When you do use the bottle, you can be sure to hold it horizontally and make her suck for the first couple of minutes to better mimic what she has to do at the breast to get milk flowing.

The tube that someone described earlier is called a supplemental nursing system (SNS) and can be helpful if baby is wanting the fast flow of the bottle and you are transitioning back to the breast.

You can also call a lactation consultant - La Leche League can give you referrals to IBCLC (Internationally Board Certified Lactation Consultants). If you call your hospital or doctor for a referral, make sure the person you are referred to is an IBCLC, as there are people who can call themselves lactation consultants who don't have the same degree of training that IBCLCs have - IBCLCs have years of training and exams to pass, some lactation consultants without the IBCLC designation only have a weekend class. If you're in the Denver area, both Bosom Buddies and Sweet Beginnings have IBCLCs that work out of their businesses. I believe some do home visits.

Good luck with everything, K.. As someone said earlier, if you want to breastfeed, you need support and accurate information in getting things back on track, but the effort is soooo worth it if it's important to you.

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H.

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O.L.

answers from Denver on

I didn't read all the replies but it looks like you're getting a lot of good advice. Let me just add this...

My first baby was a c-section and his first milk was from the bottle. They wanted me to supplement for a little while because some meds I'd had to have were supposed to delay my milk & they didn't want him to not get enough, yadda yadda. ;) I supplemented him a little but mostly worked on nursing.

And it still sucked. For 6 weeks. It was awful... he cried, I cried. I tried nipple shields, took away all pacifiers and refused to let him have a bottle.

Suddenly, one day it all got better. :) And I nursed him 'til he was two, when he self-weaned. No supplementing, no pump/bottle deal. It was great!

Enter baby #2, last year. His first milk was direct from the tap... but we still had the same problem. I won't go into detail, but it turned out I've got oversupply and forceful letdown.

My point in all of this is that it might take several weeks to iron out the kinks. If you want to nurse, don't give up that quickly! It may not even be the most obvious issue. You might try just staying in bed with her all day one day and maybe try to nurse in the side-lying position, all comfy & relaxed.

Best of luck & congrats on the new little one!

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I.S.

answers from Denver on

I would try contacting a local La Leche League consultant. If you google them in Denver (or wherever you live) you should find several. They are extremely friendly and supportive and want to help in whatever way to keep you breastfeeding. I had very painful breasts in the beginning and wanted to cry each time I fed but just stuck with it and eventually it was as normal as brushing my teeth. I really relied on the support of my midwife and the La Leche League consultant. I would strongly encourage you to stick with it if you can. There is nothing quite like it in terms of its nutritional content and the bonding power it offers. I wish you well in your discernment process.

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J.A.

answers from Denver on

I breastfed my jaundiced baby. We ended up nusing for 15 months. f bfing is something you really want to do I would nurse as much as possible and stop supplementing now.

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S.G.

answers from Provo on

I had to supplement formula with my baby too. Once he had the bottle, he realized it was much easier than nursing. He no longer wanted to nurse. As a first time mom I was determined to nurse him. It was awful for both of us. I attempted to nurse and supplement for four months before I just went on to just formula.

I had the same problem with my second child, however, I pumped and gave him my milk in a bottle, because the milk helps the baby's immune system. It was much more enjoyable when I didn't stress about nursing.

I would continue to pump so you don't dry up and then give your milk to the baby in a bottle. I wouldn't give up nursing just yet, however, I wouldn't stress like crazy about it. Just follow your baby's cue.

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A.M.

answers from Denver on

Hi K.. I really feel for you. Having a new baby is so exciting and amazing and its tough to handle when things seem to go wrong. I gave birth with a midwife and have to say that there are differing opinions out there. I know doctors will typically give babies formula- I have to admit I don't know why, where practitioners who are more on the alternative side say that breastmilk is the best thing for them and to nurse as much as possible to flush the bilirubin. Plus, putting them in sunlight every day will usually take care of it. That said, if you do want to breastfeed, keep it up. You are looking at a long breastfeeding relationship with your daughter and this will just be a little blip down the road. I found La Leche Leage to be extremely helpful when I was first breastfeeding. I had a terrible time at first and they really helped out. You can talk over the phone free of charge and they will see you for a small fee. I would say to keep trying to breastfeed her first and if she won't take the breast, then pump. You will make it through this!

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B.G.

answers from Denver on

Congrats on the birth of your daughter! We had a similar problem early on. Our son was born and had jaundice severe enough to require him to be on phototherapy at home for several days. He was so tired he really would not eat at the breast effectively so I would pump bottles but then through the night we would formula feed him (it was the only way I could get ANY sleep). I was worried about him never wanting to breastfeed after that, but once he was better, he ate like a champ (still does at 4 months). The best thing is that since he took bottles so early, it was never a problem to get him to take bottles later, when it was time to go back to work, etc. So if I were you, I would pump or do what you can to keep your milk supply up, offer the breast first, and see what happens in a week or two when she is better and gaining weight. Its worth the effort to breast feed, but in the end, if you have to formula feed her, dont feel bad about it.

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D.L.

answers from Billings on

It's your decision and a really personal one, but if you want to breastfeed then don't stop. Please call La Leche League for advice and support!

And something I wanted to add, because doctors can sometimes be the worst about supporting breastfeeding, is that I think there is an adjusted growth chart for breastfed babies (maybe I'm mixing that up with the preemie chart?). Be sure your pediatrician is aware that your baby is breastfed.

Congrats on your baby, and best wishes for figuring out the feeding routine.

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K.N.

answers from Denver on

I am assuming the jaundice is resolved????? I only ask because all of mine were jaundiced and I had to supplement with my last one. It was explained to me that the baby only needs to receive a small amount of formula, <1 oz., in order for the body to recognize the presence of a protein different than the breast milk and begin to clear the bilirubin.

As far as BF, I agree with the other post---there may be nipple confusion. It will be a couple of tough days but if you are committed to breastfeeding, only offer the breast. If you feel you are engorged, or your nipples are too flat go to a breastfeeding store and get those nipple shields to wear and help protrude your nipple out more OR pump for less than a minute, enough so your nipples are drawn out and a little milk comes out and THEN offer the breast to the baby.

I am a big proponent of BF---I have done it for all four of mine and regret nothing about it. However, it took a lot of determination, especially with my first one when I had ALL my friends and family constantly reminding me of a way out when I really wanted to provide this for my baby. I could bore you with the details of each baby, but there isn't enough room here. :0)

Another avenue for you to try as well is the lactation consultant at your hospital---Have you tried this? And if you have but didn't like the advice, call back anyway and hopefully you will get a different person that may be able to explain it better.

Best wishes.

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K.T.

answers from Provo on

Its actually a lot easier for a baby to bottle feed than it is for them to breastfeed (it takes less muscles in their lips and cheeks). Since she is sucking a little and then becoming disinterested, its because she knows she can get milk an easier way because when she doesn't breastfeed, she is offered formula. If you want her to breastfeed it sounds like you may have to have her exclusively breastfeed with no bottle. When she is hungry enough she will have a stringer sucking reflex and be more likely to take to the breast then turn it down and wait for the bottle to come.

Me reccomendation would be to try everything that you can to keep her nursing - It really is the best source of nutrition for them and if you can do it then its the best for your baby. My little one has never taken a bottle, and he is now 6 mos old and getting supplemented with solids. did try to teach him to take a bottle a few times (it would have been nice for the freedom if gives you to be away from the baby for more then 2-3 hours) but he was stubborn about it, and to me it was worth the extra hassel to have him be exclusively breastfed. He is now started on solids, and we will start getting him used to a cup, so he will never have a bottle but I'm okay with that.

I would say that you need to decide what you want to do quickly, because if you wait too long your milk will dry up and your body will have made the descision for you. I would try to continue breastfeeding, even if it means that you dont supplement with formula for a day or so to get her hungry enough to take to the breast again - though that can be hard on the new mom's emotions, the baby will be perfectly fine even though she will cry - run it by your doctor if you need a second opinion on this. Good Luck!

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L.B.

answers from Denver on

This is a completely personal decision. One thing we ran into with the professional breastfeeding places was that they were more concerned with our son nursing than they were with him getting breast milk (even though I made it clear that pumping for a year was an option as I had done it with our first). You need to decide what is most important: breastfeeding, getting your daughter breastmilk, or if neither of those matter. No choice is wrong, but it needs to be what you want for her and for you. To be honest, I was fine with not breastfeeding. It meant that we could feed them where ever, I could pump in the car, my husband could take turns with me for middle of the night feedings, etc. Just decide and allow yourself to be good with that decision.

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R.W.

answers from Denver on

I see you've gotten lots of responses, but I wanted to say that I struggled for 2 months before feeding like I was successful breastfeeding and having to pump all the time. But once we got there, I couldn't have been happier that I stuck with it and the rewards far outweighed the hardship of getting there. Stick with it, and take one day at a time. Even when you are having trouble, enjoy this time with your baby.

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L.D.

answers from Los Angeles on

Hi K.,

First of all, good for you! I suggest that you absolutely keep trying. Take you daughter to the breast first, then when she gets "bored" use your supplement. If you can, use a syringe to feed the breastmilk and/or formula suplement. KEEP PUMPING and giving her that breast milk. If you can hang in there, it will be worth it. I'll tell you my story, in as short a version as I can.

My son has two minor deformities in his mouth, which made breastfeeding very difficult for him at first. He was 10 days old when the lactation consultant told me he was STARVING and I needed to supplement him with formula. So, every two hours he spent 20 minutes at each breast, and then gor a formula supplement. This went on for the first four months or so, with the feedings getting a little further spaced out as he matured. When he was about four and half months he finally became strong enough to overcome his deformities and was able to nurse without needing a supplement. He continued on formula in bottles when I returned to work when he was almost five months old, and nursed when he was with me. He happily nursed until he was 18 months old (he turned two on March 14).

I know that sounds like a lot of work, and I can certainly understand if it is more than you can handle. And, I'll be honest, it is hard work. My son's pediatrician told me that I was the most determined to breastfeed woman he had ever met. One last thing, some of the really PRO breastfeeding folks will tell you to continue no matter what. Keep in mind that the most important thing is that little Madison Michelle is getting the nutrition she needs. If breastfeeding doesn't work for you, THAT'S OKAY!Let me know if I can be of any help.

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R.K.

answers from Salt Lake City on

So this is going to sound harsh but I don't mean it to...the other moms gave GREAT advice.

What IDIOT told you to bottlefeed instead of breastfeeding because of jaudice??? That is absolutely NOT TRUE! Feed more often, yes; put in the sun, yes; switch how you feed, NO. Ridiculous!

At this point you baby has become a lazy eater. She doesn't want to work for her food because the bottle nipple just lets the formula spill into her mouth.

STOP the bottle...If you want to continue breastfeeding.

Think of it this way. When she's older, are you going to allow her to have cookies and ice cream because she likes it more or are you going to insist she have veggies and fruits? It's kinda the same (I'm NOT saying formula is like cookies and candy--though no matter how we try, we cannot yet create anything as well as God or nature). The more you give her the formula, the less she'll want to work for her food...the less YOU will benenfit from breastfeeding and the less benefit she'll gain from it, too...the majority of which cannot be supplimented by formula due to physiology.

Take a day to lounge with her in bed topless allowing her to find your nipple at her desire, hold her skin to skin the whole time.

Be sure you're drinking a large amount of water and eating well.

Also, avoid waiting for her to cry for food or delaying her when she begins rooting to increase your success with breastfeeding.

Remember, SHE'S just learning this, too. So the two of you are a team in learning and creating a system. It'll be that way with each child you may have.

You're just beginning, there is Lots of time to establish a GREAT breastfeeding relationship. I know you're tired and overwhelmed but don't give this up without a fight, NOTHING compares to it.

Also, when contacting a lactation consultant, if you get the feeling that the counselor is more interested in the baby nursing than getting breastmilk, remember that the counselor is thinking of BOTH of you. The benefits of breastfeeding are not one way. Due to all the hormones involved with you and your baby it's a double focus which is why it can feel one-sided to some who talk to lactation specialists...they're wanting you to fight for yourself AND you baby, not one or the other.

That being said, YES, it's your choice...and thank goodness we have something far better than cows milk for infants now. If you change to formula it should be because of free and clear CHOICE not because of being STUCK into a situation due to misinformation and/or frustration.

Tune in real close to your baby, tap into your new mommy magic, and you'll do fabulously.

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J.F.

answers from Denver on

If you truly want to breastfeed, then you HAVE to just stick to it and not give her the bottle. I know it is hard, but that is the only way she will learn to eat from your breast.
My daughter was the same way!

Trust me it will be hard and there were days of me crying and her crying from hunger and it was just so hard. HOWEVER I am so glad my husband was there to support me and get me to keep going at it. Finally she took it and it was the best thing I have ever done!

You just have to decide that breastfeeding is truly what you want and then it is all about YOU sticking to it for the long hall. It will be hard, but she will get the hang of it.

However if you just want to move on and do formula there is nothing wrong with that, despite what others might say. It is more important that you are happy to take care of you little one. And if you are miserable then that does you no good.

But just think it over and decide what is truly best for you! I just want you to know that I wasn't a mom that thought she would breastfeed. I was going to try it and it didn't work- give up. But I am SO incredibly happy I stuck with it! Truly! It was the most amazing time with my daughter. The learning curve was big for us, but after a few weeks it just clicked for us both and it was a blessing...

Good luck in either choice and just remember - you need to be happy so go with your gut!

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D.W.

answers from Boise on

When I couldn't get my first child to latch on, I went to get help. They poured a bottle over my breast until she figured out how to latch on. They get frustrated and think nothing's coming out during the "let-down" period. Also, pump first to get the breast soft because it's easier for them to latch on that way.

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J.P.

answers from Boise on

I went through major nipple damage when my son was first born, but was committed to nursing. He is almost 11 months, and I have still been able to nurse throughout.

First, decide what you want to do. Not just for you, but for your daughter too. Know that if you give it up now, you won't be able to start again at a later date, but you can always try now, and go to formula later.

If you think that you may be too engorged, do yourself, and your daughter a favor, and pump FIRST. It only has to be a little bit, but you need to make the nipple and areola soft enough for her to be able to latch properly. If you don't do this, she may refuse it, or latch on poorly which can cause other problems.

Next, call a lactation consultant an make an appointment. She should be able to give you advice and make sure that the latch is proper.

Also, look for breastfeeding support groups. You will find a lot of knowledge and recommendations out there from other moms that have been in your shoes. It is similar to this site, only sometimes having a conversation in person can help.

As long as you know what it is you want to do, you can find a way to do it. If you want to BF, there are plenty of resources that will do everything that they can to encourage and help you, and will guide you to the supplementing tubes if necessary (better to fill these with breastmilk, so keep pumping). Also, when you ask for the advice, make sure that you tell them what you WANT to do. Go in saying, "I really want to keep breastfeeding, how can I make this work." This way you have the right mindset and if they say something against working through it, you can leave and find someone that will help you.

BUT, if you decide to formula feed, don't beat yourself up about it. This is a decision that you (and maybe your husband?) need to make and know the reasons behind it. Don't feel guilty either way. As long as your daughter is being feed and loved, you are doing great.

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M.H.

answers from Salt Lake City on

I had similar issues with my babies. They would do really good at the hospital then when we got home it was a different story. I would continue pumping and giving that to her and would still try the breast. It's hard and really frustrating. I would literally cry when it was the 2 am feedings because it was so frustrating.(that's no no) Baby can sense the frustration and that keeps them from eating as well. Just try to stay relaxed and coach her along with soft positive talk. They eventually got it and then it was just like breathing for them. They were all doing better by their 2 week check ups. Hang in there and you will be fine.

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N.Z.

answers from Missoula on

Kaatie- I've been there. My 15 month old is still breastfeeding, but it was hard at first. I had him at North Valley and they were super helpful. I would suggest the S and S system. There is a container of milk that you clip to your bra and a small tube comes out. You tape the tube to your breast and then the milk come out of the tube without the baby having to suck. Then they get the idea that the milk comes out of the breast. Your pediatricians office probably has this. I almost gave up, but I am so glad I stuck with it. It's hard during this time period, but then at 3 or 4 months when you are out on errands, you just need to discreetly breastfeed your baby in th car or something, while formula fed babies need to have the warm water mixed. It gets so much easier and you are giving your baby a better immune system to fight off all those childhood illnesses! Good Luck! N.

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L.C.

answers from Casper on

I had trouble with breastfeeding both of my kids. I ended up pumping and feeding and it was a good decision for me. I know it's hard but it's well worth it. Neither of my kids have ever had an ear infection and they were over a year old before they ever got a cold. I really believe that breastfeeding is the way to go. Are you going back to work? If so you will be pumping anyway so may not be such a big deal. If you decide to pump I recommend renting a hospital grade pump which are much faster and will keep your milk supply up. Also look into seeing a lactation consultant and in the mean time keep pumping as much as possible so you don't lose the supply. Overall it can be very stressful but you will work through it and do what is right for you and your baby. Just don't do anything out of exhaustion that you might regret and that will keep you on the track that you find right for the two of you. Good luck and keep up the good work!

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M.D.

answers from Denver on

Hi K.,
Congratulations on your new baby girl! Most new moms expect breastfeeding to be a natural instinctive thing where both mom and baby will know exactly what to do right away! But that is definitely not the case as you are finding out...and as I found out with both my daughters. With both my daughters, it took several weeks before we got the hang of it. With the first one, it was very painful even though she had a correct latch - another misconception out there. With my second daughter, I had to try many different positions to get her to nurse. She nursed fine on one side, but not the other...I got help from a lactation consultant at our hospital which I would recommend you do as well. They can watch you nursing and correct or make recommendations on what might work better.

But definitely keep trying....It will get better, and it is one of the most rewarding things you will ever do. But don't feel guilty either way things work out. The most important thing is the love you provide your daughter, whether its breastfeeding or bottle feeding, either way is fine.

Good Luck!

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S.W.

answers from Salt Lake City on

Only you can decide how you want to feed your baby.
That said, it's completely possible to return to exclusive breastfeeding, which, as you probably know, is proven to be the superior infant food. Since your first week of nursing has been a bit jumbled up by supplements and artificial nipples, you'll need to give yourself and your baby some more time to settle in, establish your milk supply and perfect your latch. Milk production is all supply and demand, so now is the time to nurse as often as Baby even suggests it. If you follow her cues, your body will receive the proper hormonal stimulation it needs to lactate at the right amount for her. Remember, her stomach is only the size of a shooter marble at one week of age, and your milk is so perfect it's digested within 90 minutes. So, it's completely reasonable for her to want to nurse often, at least 8 to 12 times in 24 hours (not necessarily evenly spaced).
You can watch diaper output to be sure she's getting enough. You want to see at least 5 to 6 fairly heavy disposable diapers and 2-3 poops (the size of a U.S. quarter or bigger) every 24 hours.
I hope the jaundice issue is cleared up. I am sorry you recevied discouraging advice about that. The simplest way to clear out the excess bilirubin is to poop it out, and since human milk has natural laxative properties, current research suggests frequent breastfeeding in the early days is the most effective way to move it out.
I don't know how much or how often you've been supplementing, but human milk production typically responds to additional stimulation in 24 to 48 hours. This means you can drop one of your artificial feedings every other day as you return to the breast, as long as you are watching diapers and she does not show any signs of dehydration (not likely). Consider taking a few "milk days," where you don't worry about anything except nursing your darling baby and allow your supply to re-establish itself and work on latch without feeling rushed or frustrated. Keeping your baby skin-to-skin and sleeping nearby you will help keep your prolactin hormone levels high and encourage your milk supply. All Baby's sucking should be at the breast to encourage your supply and help her establish good latch habits.
It is important to treat engorgement, since untreated engorgement can lead to a decrease in supply. You can pump if she is not latching well, but many moms find if they pump just to comfort to soften their areolae a bit, then Baby can latch on and finish the job! The best pump in the world is not as effective as a well-latched baby!
Remember, too, that swallowing is a reflex. Just because she will swallow additional milk or formula does not mean she is still hungry for it. Breastfeeding is so nice because babies can change their sucking patterns according to how hungry they are so you can't over-feed them. With a bottle, the fluid drips into their mouths even if they don't suck and they swallow by reflex. Watch for cues of contentment (falling asleep, looking relaxed) to know when she's satisfied at the breast.
It's up to you if this frustrating "adventure" is just a speed bump or if it's a brick wall on your path to breastfeeding. It could be either, but if you're willing to work through it, it will someday be a story of a rough start you turned around through your patience and determination--great qualities for a mom to have! You're working so hard to take good care of your new little love!
I highly recommend contacting your local La Leche League Leader--they are so nice and all their help is free. You can find her at www.llli.org under "resources" and she will probably be nearby. You can also work with a lactation consultant--I suggest finding one who is IBCLC-certified, since she will have the most experience and training, particularly if you decide to use an SNS (Supplementary Nursing System) or you have concerns about weight gain. Really, though, you're just in the very early days, so if you allow yourself to rest and feel confident you are providing your baby with the superior infant food, you could soon be back on track.
Congratulations and best wishes--keep us posted!

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S.T.

answers from Denver on

Don't give up. Breast milk is so good for babies. No formula can even come close to the benefits. I had twins and had to supplement them from the get go. I would nurse them first then top them off with a bottle. Despite what everyone seems to indicate, breast feeding is not necessarily the easiest or most intuitive thing for you or your baby! Have patience and don't be too hard on yourself. Talk to someone at the LeLeche League or a lactation consultant for support. Keep pumping to keep your milk supply up. You don't want to make a quick decision on this.
Good luck and enjoy!

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J.L.

answers from Provo on

My daughter had some high jaundice levels when she was born, it might not have been as high as yours, but not once did they tell me to supplement, I'm kind of wondering why they told you that? There may just be some information I am missing from your story. So I give this only as my opinion, you can take it or leave it. I can't imagine why formula would be better than breastfeeding for a jaundiced baby. It sounds like if you are engorged you are definitely producing enough. As some people have already said, is breastfeeding something you really want to do, if it is keep at it and it will be worth it. One thing you can get from breastfeeding that you can't get from formula is a stronger immunity for your baby. But if it is too stressful for you, you don't have to feel guilty about giving it up. It is always a personal choice, what will really matter in the end, is if that baby knows they are loved.

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M.H.

answers from Boise on

When I had my twins they breastfeed really good, and then they didn't and began to not thrive. So they and I were put in the hospital and I had to breastfeed each one while giving them formula. They taped a tube to my breast that would go into the babies mouth while I was nursing them. The formula and breast milk taste different to a baby so if given just breast milk they only want that, if given formula they only want that. Try seeing if you can get one of those tubes that you can tape to your breast and give her a few ounces of formula while breastfeeding her. Then slowly ween her off the formula by putting less and less mixed with your breast milk.

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L.N.

answers from Salt Lake City on

Tobe able to breastfeed, you will need to plan to take it easy for a week and get others to help so your focus is on your baby. It's very likely that this will be hard for a week or two and then your baby girl will love to nurse. It sounds like she has nipple confusion so you will need to not give bottles. The tube device mentioned by someone else is a nursing supplementer. Don't worry about any feeding schedules right now. Nurse on demand and often. She needs chances to breastfeed when she's not super hungry and has the patience to work with you. This will be a tough time but take advantage of the support available. Ask friends for help. Any La Leche leader would love to help, no matter how often you need to call for reassurance.

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H.F.

answers from Pocatello on

Don't give up on breastfeeding, it really is worth all the effort. It sounds to me like your baby is having some "nipple confusion," basically she is getting too used to drinking from a bottle instead of a breast. Milk flows out of a bottle with little or no effort, it takes soem sucking to get milk out of the breast, and yes, babies can get lazy about having to "work" for their meal. Stop giving her bottles at all, if she needs supplementation with formula (which she may not anymore, esspecially if you are engorged) or even if she needs some expressed breastmilk what you can do is try finger feeding or syringe feeding instead of the bottles. The way that it works is really simple, you fill a big medicine syringe with the milk, insert a clean pinkie finger in her mouth, and when she sucks on your finger you put the tip of the syringe in the coner of her mouth and squirt some milk into her mouth. But you must wait until she sucks, and don't give her too much milk per suck. THis will teacher her that she needs to suck to get any milk, rather than just wait for milk to flow into her mouth on it's own. Of course this is just a temporary fix for you to use unitl you are to a point where she is nursing well again. For that I strongly suggest that you contact a lactation educator or lactation consultant. You can find them at the hospital, the WIC offices, La Leche League, or ask your doctor to put you in touch with one. Re-learning to breastfeed will not be that hard for your baby, she has done it before after all and babies really are born to breastfeed, she can do it! And you will find that after a month of nursing it will seem so easy and second nature that you will wonder why it ever seemed hard. It really is worth it for you and your baby to try absolutly everything that you can to make breastfeeding work, you will feel better about yourself and your baby will be healthier and happier. Good luck to you and your precious new baby!

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M.A.

answers from Denver on

First, take a deep breath. And another. You'll get through this! :)
It seems to me that everytime I've heard of someone bottle feeding this early on (for a variety of reasons) that they have trouble going back to the breast. Bottles are easier, flow faster and don't squirm like mom! Really, I think the best thing to do is to figure out how important bf is to *you*. Educate yourself on the benefits and problems inherent to bf, educate yourself on what formula feeding provides and doesn't. Usually mom waits a while before sending out a call for help, I think you're quick enough to change the pattern without too much trouble. If you choose to bf, well, my best advice is to stop giving the bottle until you have established a good bf bond (I've heard a month or more?). It will take lots of work, and perserverance, but you can do it! Join a bf support group (there are several Yahoo groups or La Leche) that will support you personally through all of this.
If you find that you just can't do it - FORGIVE YOURSELF and let it go! I chose to bf my son (and it was a nightmare for the first 6 wks) but I've never regretted having that bond. I *do* know that not everyone can/wants to have that kind of pressure. It's important to remember that no matter what you feed your baby, YOU are the most important part. :)
Good luck!

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H.M.

answers from Austin on

KEEP TRYING! Pump a little before offering her the breast so you aren't as full and hard to latch onto. Always offer the breast first, let her fill up, then supplement with formula.

The first few weeks / months can be hard, but it is SO worth it!

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S.S.

answers from Salt Lake City on

K.,
Just wanted to let you know it will work out great no matter what you decide. You will know what is best in your situation with your baby. Lots of moms have pumped and breastfed and most I know don't regret the extra effort to provide that. If you start to not enjoy being a mom or resenting your baby, bottlefeed. You will do what is best, you aren't alone in this, we have all been there.

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S.M.

answers from Denver on

Totally agree with Regina!! I can't believe that your doc told you to stop bf.. that is so incorrect and outdated, it's almost infuriating.
Call your local La Leche League and see if they can help you out, if there is any way you can afford it you might even hire a lactation educator, it would be well worth it and in the long run save you tons of money over switching to formula!!
I'm so sorry you are having trouble. Just try to focus and relax and seek out any local help you can find.... hospital, pregnancy center, la leche league, etc.
If you need to talk to some one as this is a fragile emotional time feel free to pm me at ____@____.com and I'll give you my number. If you are in the springs I'm sure I can help you find someone to help you (I'm not in the springs..)
Oh one suggestion is you might try a nipple shield, it's basically an artifical nipple you place over your nipple, you'll just want to start out with it then try switching to the other breast without it.
Good luck and God bless.
S.
www.buenavistamidwife.com

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N.W.

answers from Salt Lake City on

She only needs one formula feeding per day for the jaundice to clear up. And yes, it totally helps the jaundice go away. You do NOT want to have to have the bili-lights.

Try to have your husband feed her that feeding so that with you it's always bf. Let her have naps in just her diaper in the sunlight streaming through the window as often as possible.

Give her some time to learn. If she has trouble, rub the roof of her mouth with the pad of your finger to stimulate her sucking reflex.

All my kids took 2 weeks to the day to really catch on to nursing. The doctors freak out about her weight that first week....but they always do.

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Z.L.

answers from Denver on

Hi K.,

I see that you have rec'd plenty of advice, and I haven't read through all of it, but I wanted to share my personal experience.
With my first daughter we supplemented a little bit initially because of jaundice and then I breastfed exclusively for 3 months. When I went back to work I wasn't sure what to do. I started supplementing with formula and sort of mindlessly decided to wean her. I struggled with the decision and sought the advice of a friend's wife who is a midwife. I am forever grateful for her advice and encouragement to keep breastfeeding and pump at work. I nursed my daughter for 10 months and now she is 5 and so very healthy. I really think I gave her one of the best gifts of health that I could. So! I would really ask you to not give up on breastfeeding - keep giving her your breast. Supply and demand. She will come around - its nature! She is probably confused between the bottle and your breast. Commit to a few days straight of only breastfeeding and see how it goes. I wish you the very best.

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A.S.

answers from Denver on

Hi K.- comgratulations!! I had a hard time with nursing too and my daughter started losing too much weight. I worked with Darcy Kamin, a lactation consultatnt. She was at my house a few hours the first visit but she got my daughter to latch on. She's worth her weight in gold!!!! she helped me so much and I was so greatful . her # is ###-###-####. good luck! also there is a lactation consultatnt who works at becoming mothers on arapahoe (actually I'm not sure if she wotks there or is connected with them)- she was very helpful too we talked for a while on the phone- I feel horrible I can't remember her name right now but call the store and they can direct you if you want another name.

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R.J.

answers from Billings on

have you tlked to the lactation people they are a free service at the billings clinic no matter where you delivered. They help alot you might need a nipple shield I had to have one and it no big deal it made it alot easier for latching on too! Good luck!

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B.B.

answers from Missoula on

Hi K.,
Congratulations on your new baby girl!
You have gotten lots of responses, which I have not read, but I just wanted to toss in my opinion. If breastfeeding is important to you then by all means keep trying to see if you and your daughter can work this out. Breastfeeding is difficult at first, especially in a case like yours, but if you are willing to put in the time and effort, chances are it can work for you. Don't be afraid to ask someone for help, call the nurses at your hospital or ask a sister, mom or friend who has breastfed. If, however, you would prefer to forget breastfeeding and switch your daughter to formula, then do it. Formula is a wonderful option. You said in your post "I want to enjoy my time with her rather than worry about this" and I think you are right, just do what feels best to you and don't let anyone make you feel guilty for whatever you choose.
Enjoy your daughter, they really do grow up way too fast!

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K.R.

answers from Grand Junction on

If you feel she's not latching because you are engorged, trust your instincts and wait it out. They have such little mouths and their own likes and dislikes, but in the end she will like being with mommy more. Never give up trying to latch with the breast first, bottle second, she'll get used to the routine and know what to do. Maybe if you hold off on feedings (by 10-15min) she'll work up her hunger enough to get her whole meal in one nursing session and not need the bottle second. Trust that she will regulate her breast vs formula needs as her jaundice goes away. Don't doubt in your own body's ability to care for her -jaundice and all. You're way better than any formula on the market.

Maybe one day you might lay in bed skin to skin and just let her cry it out at the breast. like, "sorry honey this is all we have" it depends on what you feel is best for her. Sometimes at this stage in motherhood it's easy to give up because being patient through all the crying is really difficult. It may become hard to distinguish what your mind is telling you would be "more convenient or easier" compared to what your heart knows is right for her. You can't be selfish in this. In a few months you'll rarely think back to this struggle.

It is ok to only give her the breast until she takes it. You're not a bad parent for letting her cry it out. You'll know if you need to change your approach if she starts to drop weight, it's harder to do than you think.

Everyone knows there are millions of health benefits to breastfeeding- less asthma, stronger jaw, etc- And in other good news- breastfeeding saves you like $135mo But you're never a bad parent for going to formula, and there is no need to feel guilt going that direction. It's just another way of mothering and in the end you get the same effect- a full and healthy baby. :) Good luck, we are all "routing" for you.

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J.W.

answers from Denver on

Hi K.,

First of all, congratulations! I'm sure you've received some wonderful advice already. I had the same situation with my first child. He also was jaundiced and very sleepy, and he refused to nurse. We had to give him the bottle during his first week, as it was the only way to get him to eat. I was extremely tired, frustrated, and I felt like I had failed him. However, I decided to keep trying. I always tried nursing him before ever offering the bottle. After about 3 or 4 days of this, and once the sleepiness from the jaundice wore off, he became much more interested in the breast. The good news - he never again took a bottle, and I was able to nurse him until he was 14 months old!

My advice:

1) ALWAYS try to nurse her first before offering the bottle (you can also try gently squeezing some milk out of your breast and rubbing it on the nipple to entice her).
2) If you're really engorged, pump a small amount of milk before offering her the breast.
3) Try different positions - the football hold worked best for me when all 3 of mine were newborns; it really allows you to position the nipple correctly. Also make sure that you are holding your breast with your hand in the shape of a "C" so that she is able to latch on.
4) Make sure that she is not super hungry before you feed her, as she will get frustrated. Typically newborns are going to want to breastfeed every 2 hours, but during growth spurts, she may want to nurse every hour. Watch her for signs of hunger (rooting, smacking, etc.)
5) You also may want to pick up a copy of "The Nursing Mother's Companion" by Kathleen Huggins (it was my nursing "bible").
6) Check with your pediatrician's office or hospital to see if a lactation specialist is on staff.

You have to do what is best for you emotionally, but just know that this is the hardest time (and it won't last long) because you are both learning. If you just start out by setting short goals for yourself (ie, I will nurse her for 2 weeks, I will nurse her for a month, I will nurse until she is 3 months), it will get much easier. If you want to talk or need advice, please feel free to contact me. Good luck to you and your precious Madison.

S.K.

answers from Denver on

This is a decision you are going to need to make and make it at 100% I had some major issues with my son the first 2 weeks and i started supplementing formula but my issue was he wasnt latching on right and i cracked and bled and feeding him hurt worst than anything I could have imagined. I was scared of having to feed him but i really wanted to nurse him. My sister told me to either give him the bottle or the boob but not both. Finally i decided that i was going to nurse him and that was it. He fussed for a little bit but would finally latch on. If you know she is getting hungry pump just a little bit and get the let down to happen so she doesnt have to wait for it maybe that will help her latch for longer and stay happy. Eventually you can do boob and bottle but definitely not at this stage in life. A baby wont starve themselves and will eventually get hungry enough to latch on and eat. Best of luck to you!!!!!!!!

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K.E.

answers from Denver on

Congratulations on your little girl! Ultimately it is up to you if you want to breast feed or not. A lot of the times babies will like the bottle better because it is easier to get milk from. If you want to bf then you can get help, I would bet your pediatrician would have some good local numbers for you. If you dont want to bf and you are so stressed out that you cant enjoy your feedings with her then switch to formula and the bottle. I understand how hard of a decision that can be. I wanted to bf but my little girl had jaundice and on top of that had no interest in eating and a poor suck reflex. I became obsessed with her eating enough. I pumped for a while but became so exhausted from our routine ( it took an hour to feed her, by the time I was able to get her to sleep and pump I had maybe 1 hour of sleep before we started the cycle again. I figured any breast milk was better than none so I stopped and started using formula. It was the best decision for me. I soon found myself enjoying our feedings more. Dont let anyone guilt you into staying with bf if you dont want too. It is better that you enjoy your time and dont stress, than what you feed your baby. You've pumped some and you have done wonderful. Kids will grow up just fine on formula too. My daughter was formula fed and she is almost 6. She is healthy, smart and happy. ( My friends that bf have kidos that get sick all the time) I think it is just in our genes if we have a good immune system or not, so dont let that worry you. If you do decide to bf than take it one week at a time and remember its ok to change your mind. Good luck to you and best of wishes.

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R.S.

answers from Great Falls on

Hi K.! Hang in there. Breastfeeding, if you can make it work is not only healthier, it saves money and ends up being much easier to deal with as your little girl grows. I struggled with my sons' latch for 6 weeks when my hospital lactation consultant FINALLY referred me to someone else for help. We also struggled with jaundice and my breasts were very heavy. Try to find an occupational therapist / lactation consultant in your area. I'm not sure where you live but if it is in Bozeman, MT try the Cozy Nest. We finally got the help we really needed and not just a lot of guesses from a hundred different people and things finally began clicking. I wish you all the best!

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M.K.

answers from Provo on

I would suggest seeing a lactation specialist. Breast feeding is so good for your baby, and for you too. You might try supplementing by using one of those tubes that you feed through right next to your breast. Maybe that will interest her again in breast feeding. She is probably just going for what is easier. My daughter would nurse pretty much only one side for the first few days, she would kind of take the other, but not well, and she would scream when I tried to make her. But I just kept trying, calming her down and having her do it again and after a while she took to it. If you think its a problem becasue you are engorged try pumping a little bit and then breastfedding her. You might also try holding your breast between two fingers to help her position it in her mouth and to help keep it there. Good luck.

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M.W.

answers from Fort Collins on

Hello K.,

First off, I am sure that you know any feelings we have can be passed on in our milk to the baby.?

Second, relax! After supplementing she could be still confused about what she is supposed to eat.

Make sure she can get ahold of your nipple and keep the hold, otherwise she will lose interest. It is tiring for a baby to try and keep the nipple in the mouth if the nipple won't cooperate. So hold your nipple between your index and middle finger, the whole time she is eating if you have to.

Amd relax. If she needs the supplement now, then let your milk dry up.

Good luck

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K.N.

answers from Missoula on

Congratulations on your new baby! If breastfeeding is important to you don't give up my friend! Many Moms run into obstacles at first and then end up being able to breast feed for a long time, and it is worthwhile and I am sure you know all the reasons. My baby girl had to have heart surgery when she was 1 week old and did not have strength to nurse for 2 months but finally was able to nurse a full feeding. I had to pump for 2 months every couple hours. Sometimes I thought "why am i doing this". But then she finally was able to and I was glad I hung in there. Now she is 4 years old and I look back and am glad I hung in there. Best Wishes! K. N

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B.H.

answers from Denver on

Hi K.,
Hang in there...the first few months are the toughest...but, it gets easier after that. I had so much pain, infection & blocked milked ducts until my body got accustomed to this new ritual of breast feeding & pumping.

Once you and Madison get over the steep learning curve hump...it is THE MOST WONDERFUL BOND you can imagine!!!!

I hope you can find the strength to continue. And, like one of the ladies already mentioned...it will save you a small fortune if you don't have to purchase formula for a year.

On another note...make sure you sleep, when she sleeps. If you are a little more rested, you won't feel so desperately worried & overwhelmed. :) And, you'll have the patience and strength to perservere through the hard times and enjoy these first few months of being a new mommy.

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