Getting Involved in Child's Fights.

Updated on May 28, 2011
T.N. asks from Waukesha, WI
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my daughter is 7, she and her cousin who is soon to be 9 we'll call her madison are always fighting, my attitude has always been, there's nothing i can do fight your own fight. but my sister in law doesn't seem to want to take that approach, every time madison is upset she scolds my daughter, and every time my daughter is upset she also scolds my daughter for whining or being a baby... i know my kid isn't perfect and she can be a bit of a whiner so i let it go... but more and more i noticed some bitterness coming from my child regarding madison, she even said a few times she didn't want her around, so i started paying attention more, it seemed that madison was most upset because my daughter wouldn't go play with her in her room and instead wanted to play where we could see... that seemed a bit funny so i went into madisons room with them, and noticed that madison likes to play really rough with my daughter, bending her in half and throwing her around like a stuffed animal, my daugher is a good sport about this even though i can tell it hurts her, and then when i said ok madison that's enough and my daughter said ok it's my turn now (which i wouldn't have allowed anyways) madison got in my daughter's face and screamed at her "don't you dare even think about it"
more and more i've been paying attention it seems madison finds my daughter to be her little puppet and is just this bossy little tormenting girl and i see my daughter being a sidwalk. of course talking to her mother turns into a huge battle becuase her daughter can do no wrong and she's just "so sick of everyone being so hard on madison" i just don't understand why parents can be so blind to the antics of their children, but i am not too surpised at this because she is just like her mother basically, and i guess i'm just like my daughter :(
i just don't know what to do, it seems if i stick up for my child by scolding my niece it results in an overly dramatic reaction from madison followed by an overly dramatic reaction from madison's mother, who wants to put up with that? but i can see my child hurting and this is her only cousin and my only sister... what do i do about that?

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So What Happened?

thankx everyone! i kind of already did most of this stuff on my own i just wanted to make sure i wasn't the crazy one while my sister in law ( husbands brother's wife) seemed rather irritated with me... but her bitterness seems to have died down A BIT and she actually pays attention to what her daughter is doing rather then immediately scolding my daughter for everything, and Madison doesn't like it one bit. haha i know it's bad to feel that way about my niece but it's for her own good to have a little discipline in her life right?

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A.D.

answers from Minneapolis on

I know they are family. But your child has told you she does not want to be around Madison. And for good reason. She's getting physically bullied. You've seen it. I would be livid. Stop bringing your child around these people. Do not invite them to your home or initiate getting together with them. Leave your daughter with your husband or in someone else's care the next time you will be seeing your sister and niece. When someone asks where she is, I would be totally blunt. "She does not want to be around Madion." Let them chew on that. Especially Madison. Children should not have be forced into keeping company with bullies. If they ask you "why?" I'd simply tell them she doesn't like how Madison treats her, and she has your permission not to attend. If they want to blow up and make it into an argument, I'd leave. Let your sister have a conversation about why her cousin won't come around anymore, after the initial shock. Maybe taking your daughter out of contact for awhile will have an impact. At the point you decide to bring her around again, I would NOT allow them to play out of my sight. Sadly, there have been times I have had to do this around my kid's cousins. Thankfully, it was a phase that passed. Hopefully, as the girls mature, it will be phase in your family too.

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K.C.

answers from Philadelphia on

Have the girls take a break from each other. Your sister has to learn that when her daughter doesn't play nice, she loses friends. Luckily, this time, it's her cousin and probably they'll eventually play appropriately again (no choice, they're related, they'll see each other). But if Madison can't "be nice" to her friends, she will get fewer and fewer playdates. There MUST already be issues because your sister acknowledges that "everyone is so hard on Madison" - strange how it doesn't occur to her that there must be a reason for that...

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C.C.

answers from Sacramento on

I would only allow them to play together infrequently, and observe what's happening carefully when they do play together. If your sister asks why, just explain calmly that when they play together, Madison seems to play very rough, and when you have corrected Madison, she (your sister) becomes angry. So, you just don't feel that it's best that they play together until Madison grows out of this phase (or whatever).

Definitely protect your daughter. Don't throw her to the wolves to keep the family peace!

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S.E.

answers from Philadelphia on

This is your sister in law..... Have you spoken to your brother about it??

I'd arm my daughter with ways of saying no. And give her permission to come to me and say I am done. When she is done you are leaving. At 9 the onus is on Madison to be more careful with your child. That is clearly not going to happen so the onus is on you to protect your child and use this as a chance for ehr to learn more about how to protect herself. I once ignored a bullying child and stopped my own kid so that we could talk about what had just happened. "What just happened? How did it make you feel? Do you think it was fair? Do you feel like this person is being nice to you? Well, we can tolerate some unkindness, but we have to set limits. Don't let people bully you what would you like to do now?" All the time completely ignoring the bully. She tantrumed more but both she and my DD got the clear message. My DD offered her another chance but DD told her if you can't be nice I won't play with you. You cannot control Madison's or her mother's behavior. You can control your and your daughters' reaction to it.

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S.L.

answers from New York on

I agree that little arguments should be left for kids to deal with but in this case I would agree with Catherine C. Leave immediately when Madison becomes rough and tell your SIL why you are leaving, because Madison is too rough with a younger child and you know if you talk to her about it she (SIL) will flip so you're leaving bye bye. Take two cars so your hubby can stay if this bothers him. If you teach your child she must put up with this - Think about what will happen when she starts dating and teach her that being rough is NOT acceptable.

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P.R.

answers from Cleveland on

That's a tough situation but I also think you need to do something. I would start watching more often like you are and then disciplining Madison when appropriate. If it gets your sister upset, clearly state what happened. She needs to learn to deal with it. It sucks but your first duty is to your daughter. She's younger so staying out of it doesn't seem like the right thing to do.

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S.L.

answers from Elkhart on

I think you have the right to step in here. You have not rushed to judgment; you have carefully examined the situation, observed the girls playing and found Madison behaving like a bully. Firstly, I would continue having the children play in communal areas. Then perhaps you could try using a technique (from a mom) I read about on another post. Instead of letting bad behavior slide, calmly point it out each and every time it happens and empower your daughter by telling her she doesn't have to play that way. (All this in front of Madison's Mom) Your support will give your daughter confidence and your voice will, hopefully open your sister-in-law's eyes.

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R.B.

answers from Boston on

You have to stand up for your child! If this was just a normal fight, I'd say stay out of it, but your child is being hurt. You have to be the mama bear and protect your cub!

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A.J.

answers from Williamsport on

I had this little talk (many times) with my husband who is in a band with one member who is a huge a-hole. He tantrums and bosses everyone around and can't take what he dishes at all, he FLIPS out if anyone tries any of that with him. He's always getting his way by making the hugest stink and making bad band decisions and everyone else is miserable BLAH. Finally I had just had it with MY HUSBAND for letting this guy rule by terror. It was like, "OK, why don't YOU ever blow up and stamp your foot and threaten all this stuff? Why is he being given all this power?

So. Anyway. It's hard, but she's you sister and you have to go head to head with her, not let her dominate your child. Model strength so your daughter learns. She'll need it with that cousin! Good luck, I know it's not easy!

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L.B.

answers from Biloxi on

Um, I would not let my child play alone with the cousin....out of my sight and hearing range.

Make a new rule, that the children must play in the same room you are in....protect your child.

If your sister-in-law does not like it take your daughter and go home. Tell your SIL that until her child stops HURTING your child, you will not be over.

Period.

Why teach your child to put up with this?

Make new friends.

Good Luck
God Bless

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D.P.

answers from Pittsburgh on

How about saying "If you cannot get along with each other--the visit is over?" and then end it if they don't "get along" (more aimed at your niece).

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H.M.

answers from Omaha on

Take it from a girl with 6 siblings... more than 20 cousins... and 14 nephews and nieces... not to mention three of my own kids.

Stay out of it. Let her fight her own battle. Empower your daughter and encourage her to stick up for herself! There is always the aggressive spoiled brat cousin. Hell I'd say I have a few. I have a few nephews and nieces with the same personality so I've been on both ends of the stick. let the child handle it. We all think our kids are perfect. She, being your SIL, isn't going to see what you are saying ... so you really need to just empower your baby to stand up for herself! Give her permission and tell her you will back her up. Not only will this help her now but it will in later life as well.

Although most of my aggressive cousins I still don't really like I have to admit. Now I just bite my tongue and instead of being aggressive physically they are know it all's or severe braggers and I CAN'T stand being around them still. Tigers don't seem to change their stripes they just refine them.

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J.R.

answers from Davenport on

That is called bullying - even between cousins. Your two choices are to stop gettingtogether with them, or to put up some bounreies to protect your child and yoursef. Madison needs her little but bent in half over someones knee and ....well, I wouldn't suggest doing that, it wouldn't go over well with your sister, I bet. But I would lay some ground rules for playdates.

1. Only playing together in common areas of th ehome, where adults can see what is going on.

2. NO Roughhouseing, play something nice - a board game, dolls, coloring, etc.

3. You get 2 warnings, then we are going home, since you two cannot play nicely together, there is no point in us being here if no one is having fun anyway.

Then also give your daughter the tools to deal with her cousin the bully on her own, they will serve her well in lots of other venues. Here are some links - read and practice ( role play) these tactics with your daughter, because if she getting bullied by a cousin, she is more likely to have this happen with kids at school, too. You can use the same phrases and actions with your sister, too, when she gets on your case or on your daughter's case.

http://www.micheleborba.com/blog/2011/01/23/how-to-bully-...

http://www.ahaparenting.com/parenting-tools/raise-great-k...

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D.P.

answers from Minneapolis on

I would agree with Sharon...my first thought was talk about it with your brother. Madison sounds manipulative and sounds like her mom is under the spell. Protect your child and have them play where adults can monitor a bit.

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L.H.

answers from Milwaukee on

I would have them play at your house and only where you can see them.

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S.G.

answers from Rapid City on

I would supervise any play between the cousins because it seems that the 9 year old is bullying along with being rough. Sounds like she knows she won't get into trouble and can do much to get her cousin in trouble. I would tell the sister in law that you will take care of disiplining your own child and would appriciate her not getting after her.... or I would disipline both together before the sister in law gets into it. I have one daughter in law that does the same thing when her daughter and my other granddaughter play together. I just step in on it.

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