Could These Strange Symptoms Be a Sign of Seasonal Allergies ?Follow Up

To me, this sounds for all the world like a sinus migraine.

Is your friend sure her daughter is truly tired? Or is she sleeping a lot because, like a lot of us, this is the only time she has relief from the headache?

For pressure to cause a black eye, it doesn't always have to come from the outside. It can come from swollen sinus cavities, too - and mine, like this little girl's, typically swell only on one side, and is generally caused by allergies. Personally, I would not call this "mild allergies" - I would call it severe seasonal allergies. But still allergies.

Staying hydrated will help - she won't necessarily have a runny nose - I don't always - but staying hydrated will help keep the congestion from getting quite so thick. I would, however, expect her to have an occasional sore throat, as the sinuses drain.

I hope she finds some relief, no matter what the cause.

I read the symptoms on your previous post. Has she been tested for Lyme disease. The symptoms sound like Lyme, not everyone gets the rash associated with the disease. A simple blood test is all that is needed for diagnosis - She should also request a blood test for other tick borne illness. The neurological symptoms ie, strange sensations in her toes, fatique and falling, and the swollen knee are some of the symptoms of lyme.

Celiac can make a child feel very tired - she could have a screening which involves a blood test. My son was diagnosed with Celiac, he was not having any abdominal symptoms, his symptoms were joint pain and fatique. So it is worth asking for a blood test to get screened, it the blood test comes back abnormal the doctor will order a biopsy to confirm.

Well, I will say this: My son has seasonal allergies that really started to become noticeable about that age (around 4 yrs). His symptoms were sneezing (like 10 times within a minute, a few times a day), stuffy nose, runny nose, etc... all the typical type symptoms. He was NEVER tired from it. EVER. And if you asked someone to score my child on a hyperactivity scale of some kind, from 1-10 (10 being the most hyper) he would be a 1 or 2. So it isn't b/c he is just a busy kid and is always moving or something... He just isn't affected that way by his allergies.
At this point, he has been getting immunotherapy (allergy shots) for almost 2 years... and has had VAST improvement, though he still takes a Zyrtec daily. Now he can get through the day without using a half box of Kleenex (he MIGHT use one kleenex). :))

But, he never had dark eyes, never has been tired, never lost his appetite from it. Not even taking any of the various medications we tried over the years before going forward with the allergy injections. (Alavert, Claritin, Singulair, Nasonex, Allegra, Zyrtec). He DID have the "classic" nose wrinkle that they get from always wiping their nose.

I would definitely seek out a 2nd opinion. Is there any sort of children's hospital she could take her to?

I read your previous post too.
My 5 yr old daughter has allergies and she is tired a lot. That said, she only had a 2 week period in which she was needing 12 hrs of sleep at night and one 2 hr nap a day. After that, she would complain of being tired but not actually sleep. This went on for months. Having allergies made her depressed because she was not able to do things as much or as well as her friends. Sneezing and coughing, etc, having to use a tissue, really slows down her play time and she gets quite frustrated. Sometimes, she just wanted to stay home and sleep because she notices people looking at her funny or asking if she is sick and making comments about staying away, etc. We also had stress going on in our family. When I went to see a therapist to help myself, I realized that she needed a child therapist too. We are doing better with therapy.
The eye thing could be an infected tear duct. My daughter has dark circles sometimes. They are called allergic shiners and she gets that when there are dogs around and because of seasonal allergies.
I don't think there is an actual test for seasonal allergies. With food allergies, I was told the blood test is only 50% accurate and the skin test is even less accurate. My husband was tested allergic to beef but he has no problems eating beef. Also, i don't think there is testing for preservatives, coloring and flavorings that she may be allergic to.
One of my friends has a son who had weird symptoms like sleepiness, a swollen knee (only one side) and stomach symptoms. They did all kinds of testing and couldn't find anything. The swelling and pain could not be traced to any activity.They did MRIs and X-rays and couldn't find anything. Even though he was tested negative to gluten/wheat and soy, they went to a naturopath who recommended eliminating all processed foods and soy. They tried that for a month and he has been doing a lot better. His mom thinks that eliminating gluten and soy was key.
Your friend could try eliminating one thing at a time and see if that helps. Sometimes that is the only way to determine a food allergy since testing is 50% accurate at most.