This is a doozy so I'll try not to be too wordy! Any advice would be very very very appreciated!
I've been with my boyfriend for nearly 4 years and we had a wonderful baby boy at the beginning of the year. We are very much in love and our son is described by others as the happiest baby they've ever been around...we are very blessed. We are spousal equivalents because we aren't big on the marriage thing for personal reasons. Neither one of us have family in our lives so surround ourselves with friends who are very much family.
As we were preparing for the birth of our son, we had a difficult time thinking about who would care for our son in the event something were to happen to us, so decided to name my boyfriends close friend (who is also a very distant ex of his) as godmother. It seemed like a good idea at the time (famous last words right?!).
Over the past several months it has become very apparent that she has taken this title to some very uncomfortable places. None of the boundaries I have set related to my sons well-being have been respected and she is visibly very upset when boundaries are set, regardless of how nice I am. When he's been fussy and needing to go to bed, I've expressed he needs his parents to put him to bed for now so he feels safe (this is my belief) and that as he got older and was around her more then she could do so. She repeatedly asked (5 times in 3 minutes) if she could put him to bed anyways, which the answer was still a nice "no, but as he gets older"...he was 1 month old at the time. I brushed it off and thought maybe no big deal.
As time has gone by, she won't hand him over to me if she's holding him unless I am firm and when other friends are holding him she just stares at them with a really sad expression and hoovers close to them until they hand him over. If he's had a rough napping day and isn't up for visitors, or if we aren't up for visitors, she asks repeatedly then has her friends text if she can come over even though she's already been told politely no multiple times. She has walked off with him without telling me or his father where they were going after I specifically asked her to stay close because I needed to get things ready to change his dirty diaper. Furthermore, she introduced him to strangers. Upon return, my boyfriend told her that we trust her but as parents we need to know at all times where our son is. Her response was to immediately come to me with near tears saying my boyfriend said I was "very very upset with her" over and over again and how sorry she was. I assured her I wasn't very very upset but do need to know where my son is, especially after I express she needs to keep him close because he has a hygiene need.
If we are unable to meet a visit request because of plans, she invites herself to go with us on a "date night" and to dinner with some other friends. When she finds out someone else is babysitting (neither me nor my boyfriend trust her to be alone with our son because she seems very uncomfortable around babies), she expresses extreme anger to her friends and hurt that I'm trying to keep her from my son. It's a very extreme and makes me feel very uncomfortable.
As time has gone by, I've heard reports from her friends/roommates that she cries frequently over not spending more time with my son (she see's him at least three times a month). She's also suddenly trying to have a baby with a friend who just divorced because she "needs to have a baby soon".
Honestly, I am extremely uneasy about the kind of attachment she has formed with my son combined with her unwillingness to see that the boundaries we set are related to my sons well-being, not whether we like her or want her to be around him. It isn't personal for me, but has become very apparent to me that it is personal to her.
It's really creeping me out. I get wanting to see my son more and I can understand that! He is, after all, the bomb!!! But she seems to NEED to see him to the extent where she cries a lot if it doesn't work out and to the point where she's convinced it's because I don't like her. And honestly, I'm starting to not only dislike her, but worry about the kind of influence she will have over my sons well-being as he ages.
I don't want to jump the gun so will be talking with her soon about this and she knows it will be a conversation about my uneasiness around some boundaries that are being crossed and the extent to which she seems to take things personal when they are not personal from my end at all.
What should I do? Should I tell her emotional dependency on my son is creepy? Probably not. Should I tell her I don't want her to think of herself as my sons godmother anymore and that my legal paperwork has already removed her as a caregiver in the event of my demise? Probably not.
Has anyone else had this happen? What is the best way to approach this? It's almost seeming like some extreme mental health issues are taking hold of her and that she needs help...although has been in therapy for years and on multiple medications too.
So I met with her last week and you all might be proud of me! I stuck to my guns!
She started off crying...a lot...before I could even say anything. She apologized profusely and detailed why she was sorry. I didn't cave in. I said while I appreciated her apology and awareness, and while on a human to human level I can certainly see she is suffering and feel badly for her, awareness and apologies are simply not enough. I need to see a change in her behavior and that will take time. I also said that the behavior wasn't the main issue anyways, her emotional instability in regards to me and my family was and seeing how emotional she was just discussing boundaries didn't ease my concerns but heightened them. I said I want my son to have light hearted secure and happy attachments with multiple people and what I am seeing is none of those things. Then she started to go into details of her therapy and to be honest, I had to stop her because I don't really care. I let her know that it sounds like she has much personal challenges to sort through and my family is not part of the problem, never has been, and can't be part of the solution. She seemed incoherant, losing track of thoughts and seemin to forget I was even there. We were in a restaurant and, needless to say with all 2 hours of nearly non stop crying, the server left us alone!
I told her that contact with my son would be severely limited until I could see and hear from others that she was safe. Maybe I caved by saying this, but man she cried a lot!. I told her it made me very uncomfortable and as a mother I don't want that energy anywhere near my son. I did express that many people love and care about her and want to see her happy and secure, including me, but as a mother, her needs are never ever going to be alowed to compromise my sons well being and it stopped that second in terms of her viewing herself as part of our family.
I said it all with probably too nice of tone, but I did say it and for the first time ever I left without her insisting on a hug! Thank god...I hate hugging her!
Thank you to everyone who supported me and told me to be tough! I finally found my voice and believe boundaries will be much easier with everyone from now on. You are all my guardian angels so truly, thank you.
A.
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M.B.
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Omg get her away from you and your child she is delusional for some reason she is taking it that u are already gone and needs to step in and if u are not carefull she will walk off one of these times and dont come back.she is clearly not respecting anything u say and she doesnt care because she feels like she is right and can do what she wants.my advice get a new godmother. U dont need someone who has little sane capacity going on around your little blessing one day she might snap she needs help herself she cant help u out if she cant follow simple directions. Keep your eye on that one she is crazy. Good luck u will need it with her if she continue to do this.
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C.B.
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I would not tell her that the legal paperwork has been changed. Let's hope she never needs to find out and that you two can be around until your baby is a grown man.
Inviiting herself over, coming along on date night and strong reactions when she is not the one to babysit, all point to some serious mental issues.
I would certainly set the boundaries as a couple to her: YOU are his parents and need to be with him. YOU need to know where he is at all times. YOU decide how he will be treated and when he needs to be diapered and when he needs to be in your arms. I would try to limit her visits and access. As you would to any person who invites themselves into your life more than you would like, it is time to be adamant about your needs since it involves your son's safety. If she gets upset, then be even more careful. Find out all you can about her and her past. You may even want to talk to professionals about this, like the police, since it sounds awefully close to stalking.
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K.K.
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Hello, I have found when working with children (and yes, she is acting like a child) who need to be told something negative that you want to start with something positive, put in the negative and then end with a positive note. I would make sure she knows that you understand her love for your son, but she needs to remember that he is you and your husband's son and that there are these boundaries. I would tell her that if she can't stay within those boundaries you will have to lessen her time with your son. Don't beat around the bush, make it very clear. Then remind her that you want her to be a part of your son's life, and that you know she wants what is best for him. If she can't get it, cut her out and don't worry about anything except your family on this matter. I know this sounds cold, but I wouldn't trust her out of my sight with him.
Good luck with your precious baby.
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M.P.
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Definitely take her off of the paperwork as guardian but DO NOT tell her. Doesn't sound like she can handle it. But have the talk you are planning to have with her-if she can't change then I don't know what to tell you. I would be very afraid if I were you and I would make sure ALL caregivers know of her and that it is not OK to let her in. Your best hope is for her to have a baby of her own- NOT saying that I think that would be a good thing for her or a baby-but it would definitely get her away from you.
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E.E.
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Now I don't want to defend her because some of her issues do seem out of line, but others...she might not know any better.
I remember when my BFF had her first daughter I wanted to do stuff like put her to bed (or get her up from her nap or something). If you're not a mother, you don't necessarily realize what a weird request that is.
2 years later, after I had my son, I went back and apologized for my behavior, lol.
Also, my attorney told us (when we had our wills drawn up) to make sure we DIDN'T tell people who was named as the guardian. We told several people that they'll have a role in his life (financially or in other ways) but don't tell anyone who's getting the child.
Good luck!
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C.S.
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WOW! Can you say Rebecca De Mornay, The Hand that Rocks the Cradle.
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J.C.
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First, I would make different arrangements for your son in case of something happening, this woman does not sound like a fit guardian. You need to tell the new person, and make sure they are a part of yours sons life, but you may not have to tell the old guardian right away. If/when she finds out this will probably cost you the friendship, so you need to think about if that is ok with you in thinking about when and how to tell her. Reading your post I just thank god I have my mom as my son's guardians, I already know she would do a great job, she did with me :)
Best of luck and Blessed Be.
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P.G.
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It's very sad, but she's not stable and needs help. She's not evil, just not in a good place mentally. Once you've read these replies, I think your BF should read them as well. Everything you have said about her is with good intentions, just concern. Good luck!
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M.L.
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Our lawyer had us notify the original guardians that they were no longer guardians. It was their idea as the lady had a breakdown after her parents were murdered. Still, the lawyer wanted to make sure everyone knew the new arrangements, all paperwork was redone, and people KNEW the new arrangements in case she later tried to claim the child. Afterall, she is now unstable. I would NOT let this woman around your child and I would end the relationship if possible. Your instincts are right.
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G.F.
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Sounds like that movie where the parents hire a nanny who secretly tries to steal the kids and husband...
It appears that you already know what you should do. I think it would be ok to say her emotional dependency towards your son makes you a bit uncomfortable and let her say her side. I'm sure that it's probably a) because your son is the bomb! and b) she feels a need to have her own child. She needs some professional help and let her know you are willing to go with her.
I'm not sure if after talking with her, things are going to improve without her seeking professional help but at least you will feel you did what you could before severing ties completely.
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N.B.
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This girl sounds dangerous. It seems she has several things going on, probably including some fantasy where she is your child's mother, maybe even with she and your BF as a happy little family. Now she "needs" to have a baby? Why are you tolerating your partner's ex inserting herself in all your business? Friends don't treat friends by manipulating others to try to influence you. Therapy and multiple meds over several years, coupled with her irrational behavior, make her unsuitable to babysit, let alone take over raising your child, under any circumstances. Please, gently ease this nutjob out of your lives.