7 Yr Old Misbehaving at Daycamp

Updated on July 25, 2009
S.L. asks from Beech Grove, IN
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Hi Moms!

I am having some issues suddenly with my son's behavior at day camp. A couple of weeks ago Matthew had gotten into an altercation with a boy who had tried to hit him. My son hit him back and both kids got a write up...it was Matthew's first one. I didn't make a huge deal out of it because he was just defending himself, but of course we went over the rules not to lay hands on other people and how to involve adults in the issue. No real punishment though. The next week, he got written up again, this time because he and 3 other boys at the camp dropped their pants in front of the kids in the lunchroom. I was pretty ticked off because he knows better but overall felt like it was just boys being boys. He was grounded for the night from TV, friends, and the computer, and seemed so ashamed of himself I didn't think we'd have any more issues. Well today I get the call that he got his 3rd write up, this time for putting another camper's shoe in the toilet and flushing. Being the 3rd write up, he is going to be suspended for all of next week and it just so happens I am likely starting a new job next week after being laid off this last 4 months. I'm really angry about this, and I don't know what to do! Any ideas on good discipline to make sure he stops this nonsense?!

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P.R.

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Makes you wonder who he is really befriending at camp, doesn't it? Most of it unfortunately is just "fun" stuff, frankly, to a child. In today's society where the adults who are not the parents are not allowed to discipline or to punish a child they resort to writing them up and suspending them is a punishment to the child. Well, guess what, it isn't. The child could basically care less if they are unable to attend and the only one punished is the parent. The parent is being punished because the adults aren't paying attention to what is going on and responsible enough to admit it. Adults can prevent many things from happening, if they don't then counciling the children, and having a list of acceptable punishments like washing the floor on hands and knees, etc., or making the child sit with them instead of participating in "fun" activities for the rest of the day at school or camp.
What has he been watching on television? What books has he been reading? Frankly everything you are describing has been done several times in books and on television shows and in movies that have been shown on television and all of them are rated at the most PG13.
Instead of writing the children up and suspending them the adults in charge of the camp should be putting the children in time out until counciled and then assigning them work to do instead of allowing them to take part in "fun" activities. Instead of admitting they are not "watching" the children it is easier to not take responsibility for behaviors and actions they have allowed to go on. I do admit the lunchroom scene was a little beyond their immediate control and I agree totally inappropriate. The children involved should have had the parents notified, and then had to do lunch room clean up for the next week after apologizing to the entire group.
What you are going to do is to restrict his pleasure time at home, make him help you work at home, help clean, help fold laundry, help do dishes, and he will have to offer his meager savings to the parent's of the child whose shoe he flushed to replace a pair of shoes.
Then you are going to sit down with the "adults" at the camp and explain to them your concerns about how well they are actually watching the children under their care. An altercation where self-defense becomes a write up is unacceptable when the Supreme Court in the State of Indiana upholds your right to defend yourself in like situations. A time frame that allows the children access to someone else's shoe for long enough to take it and "flush" it means the adults were not doing their job and they need to be responsible as well.
Congrats on the new job, I wish I could find one!

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M.S.

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sounds like he's starving for attention, and misbehaving works to get you to focus on him. try some positive time together to counteract it. (Not as a reward! but he needs to know that you will pay attention to him even if he is being a good boy) be sure to ask his camp leaders what good things he did, so you can praise him for trying.

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D.K.

answers from Indianapolis on

Are you talking about ALTERNATIVE behavior? Have you asked WHY he hangs w/ these boys and what he likes about them? Have you talked about getting attention thru POSTIVE actions verses destructive and/or improper ones? This kind of conversation needs to be CONSTANT AND CONSISTENT. Instead of "giving him the solution or alternative", let HIM tell you. That way, you know it's just not going thru one ear and out the other and/or shaking his head in agreement.

You HAVE to talk about consequences.....consequences NOW and as he gets older. What if he'd done that in a work setting...at school...in the mall?? How would he feel if someone else had done the same to him. How would he feel or perceive that person? immature? seeking attention? etc? He needs to understand the REASONS behind these behaviors and re-route them into positive and maturity growth experiences. If he's doing it to be "funny"....he REALLY needs to understand what is funny and what is not.

If you do something TO someone or to someone's belongings that causes embarrassment or causes them to lose or destroy something personal......THAT'S NOT FUNNY! That's being destructive. Sounds like he doesn't understand what's appropriate behavior and what is not.

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M.P.

answers from Indianapolis on

Kids behave differently when they have an audience of peers. Your son knows how to act ashamed so he can get his way. One day grounding and the attitude "boys will be boys" is not working. Get serious, and get tough. If he is ignoring your commands now, think what he can do when he is a teen.

When he gets in trouble, make sure it is more trouble for him than for anyone else- ground him from all fun and make him work. he can help with dishes, mop floors, dust, fold and hang laundry. for getting in trouble away from home make sure the punishment is for several days and add time for each offense. When he is grounded and not doing a chore, make him sit facing a corner. Or write sentences: "I promise to mind my mother" etc.

(I have 3 grown kids; I know what I would do differently.)

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C.W.

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Apparently the boys at this camp are not the type you need or want your son to associate with. I would have pulled my son and been very vocal about it. They would have refunded my money.

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