4 Year Old Purposely Pee on the Bedroom Floor?

Updated on May 27, 2010
N.S. asks from Allen, TX
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I am upset right now and am turning in here for some adice.
My daughter is 4 years old and has been fully potty trained since she was 26 months.
Earlier this evening I walked in her room because she was laying in bed and being really quiet.
Its not normal for her. Shes very active and outgoing child. I went over to her bed and kissed her and asked her if she is ok and she said yes mommy. She was watching tv in her room and When I kissed her I thought I smelled something funny. I ignored it and walked off. I later told her to pick up her toys and get ready for dinner and I went to move a chair and I found her soaked panties and soaked blue jeans hidden in the corner.She literally stood in the corner took her pants off and panties off and got into bed with pajama's on smelling like Urine. I am not sure why she would just literally pee her pants and find it amusing.When I confronted her she kinda smiled at me but she didn't laugh.Should I be concerned? Something I need to watch? She did see her dad for the first time in 6 months. He lives really far away..She saw him saturday and was never alone with her. she acted sad when he left but has been fine sunday - Wensday Now she peed her pants.she has been in a new daycare for 2 months now.
I have watched her behaviour change for the worst. cussing and being ugly. Really back talking me and sassying me when I get on to her. She has been just being down right rude. I am not sure if this has anything to do with it but i thought I would meantion it. We are pulling her out of the daycare and putting her into a new one because we aren't happy there. Ladies please let me know your thoughts.

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G.B.

answers from Boise on

In all truthfulness I believe she was scared of your reaction when you found out she urinated in her clothing and was trying to hide the fact by putting them under the chair. Smiling or giggling when being confronted from an angry person is most always a sign of nervousness.

Accidents like this are not uncommon. Every child should be allowed to have a few. My three kids have each had at least a few when they were younger. Usually they happened because the child was engrossed in playing with freinds or something else, so much so that they ignored the urge to urinate. It goes away, but then when the urge comes back, there may be no time to respond and they pee their pants. Or they may laugh which forces the pee out of the full bladder and once the flow starts it cannot be stopped. Heck, even as a teen I would hold my urine and had an accident from laughing once. Children are simple, and many don't have a problem ignoring body signals like hunger, cold, uriating signals, etc. She needs to be encouraged to respond to her body triggers and NOT wait- The body will eventually reabsorb some of that urine which is not good.

The other thing you MUST consider is that she might have a urinary tract infection. Earliest signs would be an OFF smell to the urine, and potty accidents.
Many children may pee their pants, and remove the clothes,without any thought at all that it was a big issue. After all, they think, i took care of the problem. I changed my clothes. You need to look at it from an immature point of view.
I have a son who peed the bed on occassion between 3 and 8 . He would get up, change, and go back to bed. He would litterally forget that he had done that in the middle of the night. I would find his clothes and he would say, "oh yeah, I forgot about those." I found that milk products encourage night time peeing.

Always give the 'young' child the benefit of the doubt. If she is 10 and doing this then you have a whole nother issue on your hands.

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H.H.

answers from Killeen on

Maybe it was just an accident and she hide the clothes because she knew you would be mad. My daughter smiles when she is get caught doing something wrong.
Is your unhappiness with the daycare have anything to do with her behavior change?

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J.M.

answers from Dallas on

I just asked our pedi about this issue I was having with my DS who just turned 5. She said this was about the time that accidents started happening again because children ignore their body signals to continue their activity. She said not to make a big deal out of it, remind and encourage him to go to the bathroom when he felt the urge to go, and to have him help clean up any messes that he made.

P.W.

answers from Dallas on

With all that is going on it does sound as if it could be emotional, however, check with your pediatrician to be sure nothing physiological is going on.....like a bladder infection.

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P.M.

answers from Portland on

Several thoughts:

Your daughter may not have been amused, but embarrassed or anxious when you found out. Both people and dogs can smile in a submissive way when "found out" misbehaving.

If her smile was pleasure, it sounds like she is having issues with you over rules, expectations and discipline. Too much strictness or too much leniency can both have this outcome. Kids don't so much behave in ways designed to aggravate parents, but they do behave in ways that they think will somehow get their needs met. It might be worth exploring further whether she has some emotional needs that are going unmet. More cuddle time? More free/unstructured/down time? More time with Daddy?

I suspect the emotional impact of her visit with her dad was pretty big, and at her age, she would have no way to understand why she feels as she does. But emotional shocks or sudden changes often precede potty changes or regression.

If you think the exposure to cursing is happening at her daycare (an in-home situation?) then definitely find other care. If there's a lot of anger, tension, or bad behavior displayed there, that could definitely affect your daughter's sense of well-being, and she could feel pretty angry about that.

Please consider reading the book How to Talk So Kids Will Listen, and Listen So Kids Will Talk. The authors have years of experience teaching parents how to help their children identify and communicate their feelings and needs, and participate in finding their own solutions. They teach how parents can establish their own needs and boundaries in a clear, understandable, and respectful way.

I use this approach with my grandson, and it really helps him when he's having a not-so-happy time.

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