What to Do, What to Do? - Troubled Relationship with Adult Daughter

Updated on July 20, 2010
A.J. asks from Caruthers, CA
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I find all of your answers very helpful. Yes, I am in counseling and will continue working on myself. I think I will do my best to honor her request and interact with her as the best grandmother that I can. I am well aware of the effects of my behavior as a parent, but I know that it is in the past and "money can't buy me love" as they say. Thank you for taking the time to give your advice.

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M.P.

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Have you considered the possibility that she also has Bi-polar disorder? She certainly has symptoms that would indicate that possibility. She would have a greater chance of being bi-polar than the average person because you're bi-polar.

My daughter acted in similar ways after I'd sacrificed to help her start adult life. She became pregnant at 19 and was not at all prepared to handle being a mother. She was moody and difficult to get along with and no matter what happened it was my fault. That's a bi-polar characteristic. I suggest that you do some reading for family members of one who is bi-polar. Even if she's not bi-polar you will find many suggestions on how to be with your daughter.

The hardest lesson for me was how to stop giving so much of myself to help her. When I finally let her suffer the consequences of her decisions and actions, to include being verbally abusive to me she learned how to behave appropriately. When someone berates us the healthy thing to do is to leave. No one else, but her mother, would stick around to listen to her scream, yell, and blame. You have to tell her that anytime she is rude you will walk out the door.

I learned rather quickly after telling her that i would leave, that I had to immediately leave or else I would get sucked into defending myself. I cried every time as I walked to my car. Doing this was so painful. I wanted her love and appreciation for what I'd done for her and leaving felt counter productive to me. I felt that I had to convince her that I loved her. But it worked! Hallelujah! In just a few months she and I worked out a way to relate with each other that has been satisfactory to both of us. One of us will tell the other when we realize that we are approaching feeling angry and sometimes we just stop talking about that subject or sometimes one or the other of us leaves while we're still on good terms. It did take several months to reach this space in which both of us feel loved and appreciated.

It"s seems odd that she also felt reject by me when I was staying and fighting with her. At the same time she felt comfortable with our fighting because she grew up in a family that fights to show their love. (She started life with me at 7 as a foster child) Perhaps, as a social worker, you have insight into my situation. It's much easier to see something in someone else's behavior than in our own.

Because of some of the similarities in our relationships with our daughters I'd also like to suggest that some of this happening because of boundary issues. I suggest you are doing too much for her which causes her to feel too much like a child. My daughter specifically told me that I treated her like a child and that she needed a friend and not a mother. Of course, she wanted me to continue taking care of her but to not have ideas of my own about what she needed. Because I took care of her baby while she worked I did much of the housework. She didn't even recognize that I was doing that and would be angry if the dishes weren't done when she came home. She truly did not appreciate what I was doing for her until I stopped doing it.

I think you've done more than enough to help her: more than I was ever able to do for my daughter and I did way too much for her. It's time for you to let her manage her own life and deal with the consequences of her choices. Be as sympathetic as she'll allow but back way off emotionally. And do not get sucked back in when she cries on your shoulder. Yes, she wants your help but she cannot appreciate it.

She has told you what she wants from you; to be a grandmother to her daughter but do not make comments, suggestions, or engage in much conversation with her. Respect her request and stick with it even if she changes her mind because she will change her mind right back again once she's hooked you.

There is a book entitled Stop Walking on Eggshells that helped me to better understand what was happening between my daughter and myself. I read it years ago and didn't understand what it was saying but in the last 5 years I finally do understand that my daughter and I did not have a healthy boundary between us. It was up to me to make that boundary.

I also was helped by counseling and suggest that if you're not still in counseling that you go back to it. This is an issue between the two of you and each of you have issues contributing to it. You can foster change by changing yourself. You can eventually have a good relationship with your daughter but first you have to find a way to be kind to yourself. You cannot make up for all those difficult years. They happened and they do influence today. However, you can only deal with today after you make peace with the past. I wish you success in this new journey.

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A.M.

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Your and your daughters relationship sounds a lot like mine and my moms, minus all the monetary help. She is scarred deeply from YOUR parenting while she was a child, and while, now you are able to help her financially, there will never be enough money! I have to say that I disagree with about everything the others have said...you seem to not realize the impact of YOUR actions while she was a child and now, it seems, you think "if I pay for this, or if I pay for that...she will forgive her tumultuous childhood" It doesn't work that way!! I don't know the answer, I haven't spoken to my mother for over 3 years this time. Maybe enroll yourself in counseling, work on yourself, then maybe, you may be able to help her. Good luck.

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S.A.

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Stop living in the past.You have proven your love for your daughter. She needs to figure this out on her own at this point. You have done so much for her. What happened in her childhood sounds difficult, but, its over! She has a choice to make. Either forgive you or live with resentment. It sounds like she is taking full advantage of your guilt. You need to forgive yourself as well. You had or have a medical cond that has been diagnosed and treated.Everything up until that point has to be let go.Stop letting her controll you. She needs to get a job! You can help by offering to babysit or buy things for your granddaughter if you want to. No more cash handouts!!Its time for her to grow up and you need to allow her to do it. Stand firm. I'll be praying for you and your daughter.

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R.M.

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You can't spend enough money to ever erase all of the things that were troubling you when you were raising your children!! I understand parental guilt, I look back at the way I was with my children (very indulgent...wanted to be their "friend") and I wish that I could go back and have a "do-over" but I know that isn't possible!! Somehow my daughters all turned out pretty darn well..in spite of me!!! (Or partially BECAUSE of me I like to think!!). The past is the past...you can't erase it and you can't change it..all you can do is work with the here and now.
I too wonder if your daughter might be suffering from Bipolar disorder, since as you know it is sometimes inherited. That is something that she needs to decide if she wants to look into.
I think I see the answer to your situation in your daughters own words....she wants you to "change our relationship to one in which I act as a "grandmother to her daughter", but otherwise, make no comments, suggestions or engage in much conversation with her "
I would follow that to the letter...set up weekly "dates" with your grand daughter...and the subject of her Mother is FORBIDDEN while you are together..it is just time for you and her...together...enjoying each other and being happy!! Let your husband be the one to go get her and drop her off if you would like...don't do this in a nasty way...don't be "mad" at your daughter...just accede to her wishes!!
I Would also cut off the checkbook...she wants to be an independent adult...let her start acting like one!!! Who sits and home and does nothing, while complaining that her parents who are footing the bill are being too "controlling"!!! Of course her daughter is not experiencing the stigma of being poor..but it is not through anything SHE is doing..it is because of Grandma and Grandpa who are paying for everything!!
Step back, quit trying to make everything "right" in her life..that is HER job not yours...concentrate on being a loving grandmother and an available Mother if she wants you to be. Don't let her manipulate and blackmail you with the things that happened in the past...neither of you can change that..it is time to build a new future for both of you!!!

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