What Is Causing My Daughter's Nausea and Stomach Pain Since Aug. 2008 - Danville,CA

Updated on February 24, 2009
N.L. asks from Danville, CA
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Our daughter has had abdominal problems on and off since Kindergarten. She is now a senior in High School. August the problems were worsened and October brought her a throwing up flu for a week. She has been waking up with nausea around 4 am and feels that way for several hours. The pain used to be every day, now her pain is sporadic throughout the week. This has caused a 15 pound weight loss and lack of energy. What we have tested: Upper GI test, Gastric Emptying test, Small Bowel series test, testing for Crones, Celiac, blood panels, urine, ultra sounds. What we learned is they didn't find anything life threatening, but she has acid reflux, Gastro Paresis, Bile in her stomach, and apparently a cyst on her ovary had burst to cause fluid in her pelvis. She is taking Aciphex, and Zantac for acid reflux and Sulcrafate to coat her stomach and protect it from the bile. A nutritionist put her on Probiotics and is doing an elimination diet weeding out milk products, wheat etc. We want her off medicines, pain free and returning to her energetic self. The pain is wearing on her psyche. We are going to Stanford’s clinic in March. Any suggestions of what to look for or how to prevent this will be a blessing. Thank you.

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A.S.

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Hi N. -

I always worry when I see kids on Zantac - and I applaud you for your efforts to get to the root of the problem, rather than just cover up symptoms.
Your nutritionist is on the right track - the elimination diet is very important - as her digestive system is very fragile and needs to be rebuilt and healed. Some of the medications she is on interferes with the natural digestive processes that need healing. I would recommend a book called 'The Body Ecology Diet' - it is not a weight loss diet, but a healing diet that would really help your daughter and it has a ton of information on digestive problems and their causes, and diseases that come from them - and also how to heal them.
I also agree with a previous reply that suggested chiropractic - that can help - as well as acupuncture - and this may also sound crazy - but an energy therapist will also help - to see why her body's energies are out of sorts and what pathways need to be restored. Her illness needs a multi-faceted approach - and what the doctors are doing is not finding the root - only trying to manage symptoms. You are on the right track - good luck!

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S.G.

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This is probably a long shot but I suffered from abdominal pains for years and no one could figure out what it was. It would come and go, especially after eating and it would last all day. It was terrible and also made me nauseous. It turned out to be a "lazy gallbladder". Sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't. It kept getting missed because when they would perform tests on it, my gallbladder decided to work so they ruled it out. It took them years (about 7) to finally establish that it really was my gallbladder. They removed it and I am finally painfree. Like I said, it's probably a long shot. God bless!!!

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D.F.

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Stomach problems are a real pain. Here are my thoughts Keep going with the nutritionist, and weeding through her foods. If you aren't, from now on try taking away foods one at a time, so you can know if a certain food is causing the problem. If you aren't now keep a journal of what she eats and the problems if any that arise. and sometimes foods can stay in your system for days, and still cause problems, so kind of work around that. Is she stressing over anything? (besides this of course)Good luck and God bless!

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L.C.

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Hi N.,
Wow, you and your daughter (and your whole family, really) have been dealing with this for a really long time! I think you're on the right track with the probiotics and elimination diet, but there might be something more that can help. It sounds like there is a major disconnect in the communication system of your daughter's body--that her stomach just isn't able to communicate properly with her brain to carry out functions that you and I take for granted. This disconnect can sometimes be helped with specific chiropractic. I know it seems strange to think that chiropractic can help with stomach issues, but it can! Chiropractic is all about restoring that communication system in the body. If there is a disconnect, a specific chiropractor will be able to locate it, and remove the interference with specific chiropractic adjustments. I'd be happy to explain more about how this works, if you'd like. The important thing to know about it right now is that chiropractic offers safe, drug-free help for your daughter to live her energetic life again, pain free.
Best of luck,
L.

L. Clum, DC
www.thespecific.com

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G.B.

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Hi N.,

My first thought was the bacterium H. Pylori. Has she been checked for mycoplasmas? H. Pylori is a cell wall deficient mycoplasma that likes to inhabit the stomach. It actually lives inside the tissue layers of the stomach. It irritates the stomach, and the stomach will start to produce more acid in an attempt to detroy the pathogen. But H pylori will put out an enzyme that nutralizes the excess stomach acid, causing belching, pain, bloating and reflux. Doctors will give antacids to cover up the symptoms, in the same way they give tylenol to bring down a tempurature.It makes the patient more comfortable but it never addresses the true problem. Even worse, when the stomach acid is reduced, the patient can't absorb the nutrients from their foods and severe vitamin deficiencies occur.It also makes the gut an open target for more pathogens to get a foothold. People can and many times do have mutiple infections of several mycoplasma at the same time. Zantac depletes calcium, b12,,zinc,D.folic acid and iron. (depleting those last three are a good thing if you have mycoplasma) it can also make you more prone to pnuemonia.

The old time remedy for H pylori is bismuth. Now keep this in mind: Much of the antibiotics and get well measurements given out by doctors are under dosed. Usually, to RID your self permanently of a pathogen,especially a cell wall deficent bacteria, it takes months. Many months. Doctors will give out a week long dose of antibiotics and expect it to cure the patient. Many times the patient does not get relief and is back again!

There are many types of cell wall deficient bacteria. H pylori is the one that likes the stomach, and can cause ulcers. There is Borrelia b., Babesia, Bartonella, Erlichia, and many more and some of these love to cause IBD , colitis and the like. Each of these can have several strains. These CWD bacteria SUPRESS the immune system. Some are VERY HARD to detect. Most labs don't have sufficient equipment to even find it in the blood.(IGENEX is the one lab that can, but it is very expensive.) To make matters worse, the spirochette types of CWD bacteria, Borrelia b, have a corkscrew shape and can travel and move about, and can find there way into any tissue. Vitamin D defieciency strongly indicates infection with chronic bacteria as they are disregulating the innate immune system (the vit d receptor.)

I could send you much more info on this issue, but to keep it short and simple, If it were my child, I would tackle it like this:

Have her eat protien at every meal. Reduce carbs. Stop all dairy that has vit D in it (use watered down half and half for your milk in oatmeal or cereal)Stop all soy, including soy in processed foods as soy lethicin, soy extract, soy protien. if you must buy processed cereal, look for low vit a, d and folic acid.
No breads of any kind that have any enriched flours in them.
the excess folic acid and vit d feeds the bacteria. Stop all sugar, which also feeds it, and of course soda pop, coffee and tea. Use Xylitol in place of sugars. You might be able to use coconut flour or almond flours in place of flour, as long as they are not enriched.No seafood, no egg yolk (use egg white sub products). Keep potatoes to a minimum.

Intestinal problems can be a sign of biotin deficiency. Biotin in a b vitamin that is created in our gut in a healthy GI tract. You could consider giving biotin or even a B complex....as long as it doesn't have folic acid or iron in it.

L glutamate can restore gut tissue.

Stop all chlorine in drinking water- it kills the vitamins a,b,d,k,omegas and even kills the probiotics you are giving her. use spring water or get a good filter.

Antibacterials:

SAMENTO 3 drops 3 times a day.
CUMANDA 3 drops 2 times a day (take at a different time as samento, (3 hrs after the Samento)
These two antibacterials are natural antibiotics that you can get without a prescription from Nutramedix(look online).They can take the place of metronydazole or tetracycline, or minocycline in killing some CWD bacterias.
Ps..it is not unheard of to see people who have had the bacteria for years (your daughter has been sick for years) to be on medication like samento or minocycline for years. Sometimes one to two months for each year of sickness.

BISMUTH -colliodial bismuth substrate 3-4 times a day

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10086657

http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum32/1263.html

http://www.springboard4health.com

Down the road After antibiotics:

FULVIC ACID. Iron and folic acid can feed the bacteria. But once the bacterial problem has been resolved, Fulvics can replentish all the minerals that she may be lacking due to any malapsorption issues going on in her stomach. It has 60+ trace elements in an ionic solution that penetrates the cell walls. It can help carry other supplements into the cells.It stimulates and rebuilds the immune system.It is the most powerful antioxidant/detoxifier and chelator known.

Vit B complex.

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L.T.

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N.,

The probiotics is good. Also do a google search on Manuka Honey, and read the reviews for it on Amazon. It's expensive but it's worth it. Sometimes it's cheaper on Vitacost.com vs Amazon. The only brand I've tried is Wedderspoon's organic Manuka Honey +16. It tastes great and it helps with so many things. If you get it, read the label on the side as to how much your daughter should take. It's worth a try. I hope it helps her.

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