What Happened - Detroit,MI

I couldn't agree more! And that is the exact word I use with my girls "whoopin" ! lol I'm glad I'm not the only one! I think all this time out stuff is kinda funny.. And did you know the "time out" guy (the one who basically invented it and started making it known), well his son committed suicide.. Just some info on that guy.
Don't get me wrong I've tried it and do use it for more little things....but some things are just whoopin worthy! lol
Funny how much WORSE kids are now with all this new discipline than back in the good ole days when all kids got whoopings huh ?
So I say.........AMEN ... give whoopins when needed!
Of course I don't think anyone should use it to get out their own frustrations and beat their kids, theres a fine line i guess.. But I know what you're talking about... old school whoopins!

I have rarely had to physically discipline my son but he understands at 7 that I am not his friend. He knows that he doesn't always have to like me, but he should always love and respect me. I set up guidelines and a couple quick pinches as a toddler kinda curbed a lot of behavior that I see in my son's peers. Kids do need clearly defined discipline and sitting a child in the corner for a "timeout" has been researched to rarely curb bad behavior.
Children that grow up without at least a few strict rules typically end up with issues with authority (teachers, bosses, law enforcement) later in life.

So I'm definitely more in the way of old school parenting, but I think if your two or three year old learns that Momma & Daddy will not stand for repeatedly breaking rules at all then you will have 12 and 13 year olds that know that too.

i agree with you C. that is why our society is changing for the worse due to lack of respect a false sense of intitlement and parents trying to be the childrens friends!! you are not the only parent who feels this way.

we did try using spanking with our almost 3 yr old when her behavior was very defiant but it didn't work for her. We use a version of Love and Logic with swift consequences of removal of priveleges that are important to her with very firm limits, no repeated reminders or explainations. It is more effective for her. And it allows us to keep our cool better. I agree that parents should be firm with limits and expected behaviors and find myself to be somewhat stricter than many other moms. I think its important that a toddler knows that when parents say no or set a limit that is final. We were spanked when we were younger (very infrequently because we knew mom and dad were serious) and I don't feel it was detrimental at all.

read Ginny B. response she got it right. How does hitting your child make you a good parent??? No correlation at all.

You are NOT the only one to feel like this. I think I might have been spanked or slapped MAYBE 5 times in my lifetime... The last being when I was 14 and TOTALLY deserved it.

Edited to add- I read more of the responses... The "Attachment Parenting" style is what my SIL uses... I've studied, in my personal life, how kids act when "AP" is used vs. "TP" (traditional parenting) is used... My children and I have an extremely close bond. I don't think I've had to discipline my kids more than once or twice for something by using the "TP" methods. When either of my kids could get seriously injured, killed, or mamed... Yup, you're ____@____.com straight... They get a swat on the butt. When my 7yo talks to me like a teenager and screams in my face, I look her in the eye with a firm grip on her jaw (no... not abusively or agressively) and ask her if there's a need to be screaming at me when I'm not screaming? And I'll ask if she needs to go to bed. When the answers are no (which of course they are), then she settles down. My daughter getting sent to her room for the evening... Yeah right. She's much too stubborn for that to even put a dent in her behavior. And no... No video games or TV in her room.

My son is only soon to be 2. He hasn't pushed quite yet. His tantrums (from not getting whatever he pleases) get ignored. And when he notices that it's getting him nowhere... He stops.