I am a male 18 year old i recently had 2 friends separate the husband(roger) beat the wife (jill) on more than one time. the also have a kid involved. I reached my hand out to help the girl in the situation bc the husband left her with no money. All and all roger is now claming jill and i have commented adultery together which did not happen. and is going to pull all the cell phone records word for word, and going to push for full rights to child. one im asking can cell phone records be pulled after so many days and second can he get me for adultery for just helping a friend.
If you havent done anything wrong you should have nothing to worry about.
And, yep, cell phone texts can be accessed.
Sounds like he's continuing to bully her by way of affecting who she does and does not associate with. This isn't uncommon in dv situations. Like another poster listed below ... get her in touch with a DV group who can help her advocate for herself and get her on her feet.
With a subpoena, they can access phone records, but not actual recorded conversations. that doesn't prove a darn thing unless she spends more time on the phone than caring for the child or if you are a person she shouldn't be associating with for the well-being of the child (ie. a criminal of some sort).
her ex is pushing because he knows how to push her buttons as a mom ... by threatning to take away her kid. His view is likely "if i can't have her, then no one can and i'll make her miserable in the process". Hopefully, she documented the incidences of DV to help substantiate her case. In any way, she should take a moment to write down every time he threatens, bullies, or demeans her. That way she has a record of his actions!
I'll be praying for her and her child!
Adultery is sex. Having an affair is not necessarily sex but could lead up to it. I think this is how it is... If you were just helping a friend you have nothing to worry about. If it came to court and lawyers, depends on when all of your helping occurred. Was it before the split or after? If it happened after i dont know how he could argue for full rights becuase of you. If he is more volatile, then he is the unfit parent!
they can go back years on cell phone records if they want to pay for it. and phone records prove nothing other than that someone was called or texted. they don't record your conversations. and as for the adultery, while it's not right, it's not illegal. and the judge can't keep a child from the mother because of something that is alleged or for the fact of adultery even if it is a fact.
Not that I am aware of. But she may want to show the courts stability for the child. She needs a stable environment to raise and provide a child. Hope she can get that to keep her child.
Good luck
Do you have anything to worry about?
What will phone calls prove? You were only being supportive, right?
Now, text messages is another matter all together.
Unfortunately the system makes it hard for women/men victims because if the woman doesn't report it, where's the proof? Her testimony is her only ground to stand on. What man is actually going to admit he beats his wife/girlfriend?
As long as she has nothing to hide and is being honest, she has nothing to worry about unless he's vindictive and his attorney is a pitbull.
Perhaps you should keep your distance until things simmer.
Depending on what the cell phone company it is. As for Verizon what I know is that you have to have a court order or something to that effect to pull cell phone records and what the conversations were said and same for text messages. All he can do is see who she called and text on the phone bill (assuming that they have the same bill).
Just like everyone said - Adultery is sexual relations with a married person. Whether you and your friend had any relations then yes she committed adultery. But if you were just there to pick her back up from the ground that her husband left her...then you have nothing to worry about. It sounds like the husband is an angry person and since he has already beaten his wife....it's a scary situation. Domestic violence is and can be a tricky thing to deal with. It's truly a vicious cycle. Now that there is a small child involved it makes it even more sad. What you need to do is have your friend get together with womenspace or a domestic violence shelter to help her get through this. If not for her, she needs to do it for her child. Your friend has to want to move forward with this and needs help ASAP!!!!
Good luck hun - I hope you can help your friend further and get her to a safe place with help.
Cell phone records certainly can be pulled. Any text messages you sent can be retrieved. Unless a phone was tapped, you can't retrieve your conversations. Voice mail can be retrieved. Doesn't matter if you delete all texts and voicemails. It's not simple to get these records. They require a search warrant or court ordered subpoena. This usually only happens when a crime has been committed. If it seems like you committed adultery (or if you actually did) of course he can get mad! He can also feel threatened, because he's controlling and abusive...which is where the real anger is coming from.
Even if he can get his hands on this, you didn't commit adultery...right? So it shouldn't matter. Is there police reports on him beating her? Any proof at all? A court would not give a child to man who abuses, over the mother. Does the mother have serious issues? To be 100% honest, you need to cut all contact with this woman and keep out of the situation. It will only get worse for you and her.
First, I am fairly confident that in the eyes of the law adultery is defined as some kind of intimate act. Helping someone financially is not adultery.
Second, the only information a phone company has is date, time, phone number called or received and length of conversation. They don't record calls. They are able to pull text messages though, and I don't think there's any time limit on it. If the court orders it; the phone company can provide transcripts of text messages.
Third, if he beat his wife no judge is going to give him custody of a child. Even if he were able to convince the court that adultery was committed, that has no bearing on child custody.
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