Rapid Automatized Naming

Updated on February 29, 2008
D.P. asks from Kerby, OR
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I have taken my son for numerous evals, for his numerous "problems", noe of which are too major, most of which he is a "fall between the cracks" kids, in terms of receiving services. THe latest eval was at Sac State for Speech, his lowest score levels are in "rapid automatized naming" I still do not have a grasp on exactly what this means, but I am doing research, it was explained to me, but just trying to really grasp it. What I do know is my son will probably always be slower that other children in responding to people, at home and in school when asked questions and such. Does anyone have a child with this problem and if so can you please help me understand it a little better, I was told there are no proven therapies to help improve this problem.... thanks for any and all input.

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Thanks for all the great advice! I am working closely with my son's teacher and I will be trying some of the suggestions that were sent to me my lots of you! thanks again!

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G.D.

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You might want try Sequential homeopathy... works great for all kids ASD to learning problems!!! An other option is The institutes for the acheivment of human potential, runned by Dr. Glenn Doman...he has good books too!!! Love, G.. :0)
P.S. If you are interested in more info, just let me know!!!

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L.I.

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Music is a wonderful way to learn. I am a professional musician who did terrible in school because I could not identify or remember. BUT, when the information was put to a simple melody and I listened to it over and over, I could do anything. Linear learning was difficult. I am an auditory learner. It is the difference between the right and left brain. Hope this helps.

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S.S.

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My suggestion is to try to find a good speech therapist and start sessions as soon as possible. - Expensive??? Yes! But well worth it in my experience. Once the therapist begins to know and work with your child you will undoubtedly get a better evaluation and better information about your son's problem and how to deal with it. Good luck!

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J.D.

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Hi,
I'm a Child Psychologist, and I do cognitive and educational, and some language assessments all the time.
Rapid Naming difficulty is basically a difficulty retrieving words fast, or coming up with words for what a child wants to express fast. It looks like the child is struggling to express what he wants to say. He usually has a hard time summarizing things, and gets stuck in telling things his own way, in round about detailed explanations. When he is talking about what he wants to talk about, using his own words, he can usually do fine. But when under a formal language demand, like being asked a question in a classroom, it takes longer to come up with the words or phrases. Rapid Naming difficulties are highly correlated with Dyslexia. In dyslexia, among other things, the child has a hard time becoming a fluent reader. "Fluent" is the part that is correlated with rapid naming. Fluently coming up with words, or recognizing what the word is when he sees the symbols (letters). One thing that contributes to difficulties with retrieval, including rapid naming, is poor organization. When the child's words are organized in his memory in a very disorganized fashion, it's harder to quickly go into his memory and find the right word. It's like trying to find a paper in a disorganized filing cabinet. So, one thing that can help, is to help the child's word knowledge become more organized. There are lots of activities you can do to help. Like making "word thermometers" in which you make a list of related words from mild to extreme, like, cold, warm, hot, burning, scalding; or annoyed, bothered, mad, angry, furious, etc. Arrange them from bottom (mild) to top (extreme), like a thermometer, and they can be color coded, like pale pink to hot red. Lots and lots of word groups can be arranged like this. Also, you can create a "word wall" in which words are placed in some organized way showing how they relate to each other. Add pictures. Be creative. Another technique is to put individual words on post-its. Then put higher-order concepts on a big piece of butcher paper and arrange the post-its in ways that relate to the concepts. Like "colors", with "red", "blue", etc underneath. This is a simple example, but the technique can be used all the way up to writing research papers in high school. Post-its with words, or facts, then arranged according to some organizational scheme. Also, you can take the simple words or concepts, put them all together, and ask the child for one word or phrase that summarizes all those words. The possibilities are endless. The point is to get words into their brain in a more organized fashion so that they can be accessed more easily.
Also, if there are common phrases that your child needs to be able to produce fast, teach them to him and practice them. Like "i need help" or "which way to a telephone". Lame examples, but in new situations you can sometimes anticipate some phrases he might need and get them ready for him to be able to access faster when he needs them.
With low rapid naming scores, I hope you have had your child evaluated for dyslexia, a type of developmental reading disability. Hope this all helps. I'd love to hear if it does or not. Good luck. ____@____.com

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S.L.

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Your son may have an auditory processing disorder. My son has one and it took till 4th grade and me taking him to the Center for Communication skills in Fresno and them doing an evaluation on him to finally get it identified. I suspected it but they confirmed it. I sat in on the testing and it gave me alot of info on how I can better help him. We went through a program there called Fast ForWord. It was intensive and a bit expensive but it helped tremendously and since he did it his brain has been evolving and developing better. Their assessment will tell you whether or not he would benefit from it. The school did a whole battery of tests and they didn't pick up anything. But they don't test for this. Read the following link to see if you think your son's symptoms fit this profile.

http://spectrumcenter.net/auditoryprocessing.html

If you have any questions afterwards I would be happy to talk to you or help you. The school system doesn't know how to deal with this and you have to really work to get help.

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M.R.

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Hi Denise,
Well, from what I understand this test evaluates whether a child will have reading disabilities and/or learning impairment. I wouldn't give up hope though...the journal article I read on the subject indicated that although the "RAN" test is effective for targeting reading disabilities it is much less effective on targeting a general learning impairment. Has he been tested for Dyslexia?
Children who have Dyslexia can be very intelligent, but have difficulty processing information the way we can. It's really difficult when you know somethings not right, but it isn't so pronounced that it's easy to diagnose. My suggestion is keep on searching and reassure your son of what he's good at. As he becomes more and more aware of what's going on with him, it's going to have a big affect on his self-esteem.
Good Luck,
M.

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P.U.

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? im not clear with whast s wreong w ur son. let me know

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D.B.

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Hi Denise,
There are a number of alternative therapies available that the MD's don't "believe in". Check under special needs in the mamasource business section to see what might be available from other Moms. Someone might be able to help.
D.

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M.S.

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Hello! I am a mom of a 14 month old. I have not a developmental delay problem diagnosed to my child, but I work as a ABA therapist with children that have similar diagnosis. I work with children diagnosed on the Autism spectrum. I know you would most likely prefer that your child does not have this diagnosis, but if you have the regional center or school district re-evaluate your son and this comes up you may be eligible to recieve many hours of help and services to your son. I have worked with kids and they have eventually lost their diagnosis, I have also worked with many, many children that have improved in so many ways!!!be sure to look into many different resources. Thank goodness there are a lot of resources out there these days for children with delays in all aspects!

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D.W.

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We have so many new names for new conditions that it can be a overwhelming, but the important thing is that if you feel that you have now identified the issue correctly, you can figure out how to help the world adapt to your child, and vice-a-versa. I think the main answer to many of these things is to help your child learn to accommodate for the weakness, and to get the schools on board with giving allowances as your child struggles to do that.

Do you now have a title that will get your child an IEP (Individualized Education Program)? If so, you will find that very useful, in that you and the IEP team will be able to work together to decide how the classroom environment or teaching methods can be adapted for your child's needs. If not, find out if there is another title "close enough" that the school can use to qualify your child for special education, which will allow your child services and accommodations as appropriate.

We got my son qualified for special education in 2nd grade and it has made so much difference. Honestly, I couldn't care a less if the tentative diagnosis we used to qualify him was correct, because it was simply a key to open a door. Since then, my son has been treated as a unique child with everyone on the "team" looking closely at how best to help him succeed. And it has all worked so well for him; our school has a great special education team. As with your child, there are skills my son simply never will acquire at the level other kids can, but they no longer hold him back. While we work with him on adapting those weaknesses, the school gives him special accommodations so that he can follow his strengths, without huge penalties on the weaknesses. My son also gets quite a few services, but often it is the accommodations that make the most difference.

I hear what other posters have said about labels, but a diagnosis does not have to be a negative thing. Whether it becomes a negative label or a useful key depends on what follows. Get together with the other adults in your child's life to make sure that this key will be used wisely.

I wish I knew more about your child's unique condition, but hopefully my general experience will be a little helpful.

Good luck!

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M.M.

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Denise P.

I am no phycian but love and quality time may make a difference. The opportunity to get out of house is important and making money; During quality loving time make games on communicating, pronouncing words as in moo. little words and gestures.

Do you pray, I will pray for you and your child of angel
Being four is so little and so big and peer pressure is huge. I'm sure you will do your best to insure her. Be brave and endure and have patience.

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L.H.

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Denise, if you read my profile, you'll see we have some things in common. My children have had similar struggles. Try the website www.dys-add.com Read the warning signs or watch the video "Could it be Dyslexia?". If you find that you can relate to any of it, then that website can be a great resource. I am pretty far on this journey and can help with advice as well, if you wish to contact me, just send me a message and we'll share stories... Good luck, L.

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T.C.

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Have you taken your son to his docter, usualy a child with problems like that need to be seen by a nueroligist, or a phycologist.. dont let the school or even sac state give you a diagnose for your son, they are not qualified. It took a good 4 years and a couple docters to get a diagnose that i agreed with from the research that i did. my son is now 12 and has trouble reading social cues from people especially from kids his own age, he is emotional, he used to break down in class and on the playground, which included laying on the grown crying. as he is aging he is getting better( natural maturaty) but just a lot slower than kids his own age, most kids think he is wierd.He is in a regular school woth regular kids, but he does have a IEP ( a special Individualized learning program.)he has been in speach since he was in preschool and still sees a speach teacher for 6th grade even tho he probably does not need it anmore, but i does not hurt, he likes his speach teacher..

I hope this helps.

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J.B.

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Hi Denise,
I agree with Tamara's recommendation and if you haven't already done so, I would get a formal evaluation from a doctor who specializes in this area. I am a speech therapist, and while I fully support other speech therapists, I almost always recommend additional evaluations in order to get a full "picture" of your child's strengths, as well as needs. I find it hard to believe that there is no type of therapy that could offer your child some strategies to help him process verbal information. In addition, have you spoken with an audiologist who is specialized in assessing auditory processing disorders? Although it is different than "hearing", audiologists are often highly qualified and the best resource for this area of need. Someone mentioned the regional center, but I am not sure if they would evaluate your child at this point. If you haven't been to the school district, I would request an evaluation from them and a possible recommendation for services. If you can get a formal evaluation from a doctor, hopefully they will make recommendations for appropriate therapies and goals. Good luck to you and there are professional people out there who can and will help you and your family!
Jen

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P.M.

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Denice,
I did not know what you meant by rapid automatized naming so I googled it and there is actually allot on the internet. I found this link and it is a good explaination for what the implications might be for your son.
Here is the link. http://content.scholastic.com/browse/article.jsp?id=4468
Take care and make sure he eats well and gets allot of sleep. ( Fruits and vegetables high in antioxidants )not processed high sugar junk foods.
Good nutrition makes a difference.

P.

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K.D.

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Hello Denise,
I am a mother of 2 beautiful boys ages 5 and 7 years old. My older son was always faster at everything and he's currently above average in the 1st grade. On the other hand, my younger son has been in speech therapy since he was 3 yrs. old and will probably need it a couple years more. He too, was evaluated for hearing, speech, cystic fibrosis and autism. Luckily, he's simply delayed in speech only. I understand your frustrations because my son, as will yours, will be behind the other kids until they can get a firm grasp on speaking correctly. My son, is social, he interacts with others well, he's always had a hard time communicating and the biggest trials will be associated with that. The only real therapy that I have learned as a mother is to be patient as it may be really frustrating for us, but we need to remember how difficult and hard it'll be for them. Other children may be afraid of them and cower away because they will repeat themselves often and speak louder while the others do not understand. We focused so much of our time on speech that we forgot to teach our son about the basics in writing and math. The technical terms that are given for our childrens' IQ do not mean anything to me as well. What matters is our goal in teaching them all we can and being able to say that they are okay. They'll be loved no matter how long it takes them to learn.I hope this helps a little.

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L.W.

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We are evolving, and they don't understand our children. They think it should always be as it has been in their limited concept of history. Do you feel that this loving being is wrong? He is different than the standard that we have set up to contain consciousness. Will you let it be a limiting factor or will you support him in love and let him blossom into the infinite being that he is.

I lovingly support you! Don't let them label you or him! Evolution knows no bounds, call out loud for help from what ever system of spiritual guidance you believe in, which cannot fail.
Love, L.

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L.S.

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Dear Denise,
I am very new to Mamasource, in fact, you are my first read and response. Hopefully after reading my brief profile, you will feel my advice is worthy of your research. RUN DON'T WALK to this website www.handle.org. HANDLE is an acronym for Holistic Approach to NeuroDevelopment and Learning Efficiency. In this Approach, I'm sure you will find, at the least, a needed support, at most, the potential to transform your son's (and yours) whole (learning) life. There is a practitioner of HANDLE in Walnut Creek, CA. Her name is Sindy Wilkinson. Sindy's site is www.learningandgrowth.com

I welcome any conversation you may want in response.

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R.R.

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I don't know anything about this diagnosis, but just wanted to say it sounds a lot like my daughter! I haven't had her formally tested for speech/language, but like your son, she has many issues that are too subtle for any services. She goes to OT (private pay) for coordination issues but for speech we just work on practicing a lot at home.

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