M DISTRACTION V. TIME OUTS

Updated on October 23, 2012
F.B. asks from Kew Gardens, NY
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I have a lovely, if not determined and spirited two year old. He gets picked up by grandma & grandpa from daycare and stays with them for about an hour/ hour and a half until I pick him up after work. Grandma prefers using distraction as a form of discipline. I think it has its merits, but to a point.

i.e. yesterday, he decided to repeatedly throw open and slam their fridge door. (part of being a ittle scientist and figuring out how stuff works). but stuff was flying off the fridge door, and it was unsafe and unacceptable in my opinion. She tried luring him away to play with a car, to go up and down the steps, to pet the dog, to pull on a pinnochio marrionette. She barely got him to budge, and he'd run right back to that fridge door again.

I think distraction has its merits. Why be unduely punitive? But IMO, if the distraction doesn't take, punishment in the form of a time out, or repeated time outs is in order. Otherwise the fridge door becomes a vehicle for loads and loads of attention and a super fun game in which DS figures out he can get grandma to stand on her head until she finds some extra cool distraction.

Am I wrong in my thinking?
Also, how do I navigate this difference in parenting with my mother?
Thanks for your suggestions.
F. B.

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T.S.

answers from San Francisco on

Kids are pretty smart.
They learn very early on how different adults have different rules and expectations.
I wouldn't make an issue of it with your mother. Let her do things her way while he's with her, and you continue to do things your way when he's with you. My MIL let my kids get away with all kinds of things I wouldn't. It never confused them or undermined my own style of discipline.
Remember, what happens at grandma's stays at grandma's :)
(And she is doing you a HUGE favor after all!)

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C.B.

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I think you are spot-on. While distraction does have it's merits, unless you actually tell the child that what they are doing is not acceptable, how are they going to know that. You have to TELL them what you want or don't want, don't just assume they are going to figure it out because you keep distracting them. If they are not told something is a "no-no" then they will just keep coming back to it, IMHO. I also don't think you should put a child in time-out for a behavior that you have not already tried to discouraged by telling the child no, don't do that. You can't punish for an unwanted behavior until you've let the child know that the behavior is unwanted and unacceptable.

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K.I.

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Distraction does work most of the time at this age....but nothing works quite as well as a nice firm 'No-No' and then physically moving him/her away from the situation.

I am sure you will find a nice balance somewhere. If I were you, I would let Grandma continue with the distraction technique until it is obvious that it is not working and then swoop in with the 'No-No'!

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R.M.

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I think you let her discipline her way, while she is in charge of him. Kids can learn that different adults approach things differently, and they can adapt to each situation.

Don't micromanage your mom, unless you truly think what she's doing is dangerous, leave it alone.

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L.E.

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You are going to have to let Grandma handle him the way she believes is best when he is with her. Maybe ask her if she would like you to step in at times, but otherwise, let her do it her way. This is the age when your son is learning the rules of each location. There are going to be some differences in rules and discipline in a variety of situations all his life. It is an important lesson to learn. You can help the grandparents by teaching your son how to respect and obey them though.

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M.P.

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I strongly believe distraction works best at 2 yo. Even if you gave him a time out (2 min) he would be back at the refrigerator once he's let back up. It's the nature of a 2 yo to be persistent. He has to figure out that door and besides it's so much fun to knock things out. You have to keep taking him away from the refrigerator until he stops running to it.

His brain is not developed enough to associate the time out with the activity. He isn't able to "say" to himself if I do this, I'll get a timeout. When time outs work at this age it's because they are themselves a distraction.

I suggest that the reason your mother's efforts didn't work is because the distraction wasn't active enough and perhaps because she didn't physically keep him out of the kitchen. When we use distraction we need to physically separate the child from the scene so that his mind latches onto something else equally as interesting.

You navigate this with your mother by keeping an open mind and by reading up on various ways to discipline a two year old. Talk with her when you're not dealing with your son. I suggest that the two of you can use two different ways of discipline. You can try out time outs while your mother is using distraction. Look at the way both methods play out. You try out distraction too. See what works for each of you. You both do not have to use the same method. What matters is what works for you.

Later: Telling the child no or in some way that they are not to do what they are doing is a part of distraction.

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D.B.

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They have to be told NO if they keep going back. "Time to leave the door closed" along with the diversion to an acceptable activity. Also time to get the stuff of the fridge door and put on a lock - we used a velcro strap too high for our son to reach. So in some sense, Grandma's house, Grandma's rules BUT he's not learning anything and she's not registering any disapproval. So I'd address her frustration that what she's doing isn't working at all, and that she's not getting anywhere, and suggest that you both use the same vocabulary (if you can agree) so that he hears a consistent message. If he figures out that defiance gets him bigger and bigger rewards, she's going to create a real problem for both of you.

Oh yeah, and get the fridge lock.

ETA - he probably won't respond to a time out at this age, but he will respond to a stern look and a firm "no". So there's a mid-point between pure distraction and being put in time out. And at the rate he's going, he won't sit in time out anyway and will just run back to the fridge. Or she'll have to hold him down, which is another set of frustrations.

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