Kindergarten Transition - Essex Junction,VT

Updated on October 11, 2014
M.C. asks from Essex Junction, VT
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Hello Moms,

My oldest daughter started kindergarten this year and loves it. However, the transition is, not suprisingly, rough. At home (never at school), she has regular meltdowns/temper tantrums, and is frequently disrespectful and dissatisfied. I realize this is all part of a typical transition, but it's adversely affecting the whole family including her 3 year old sister. I should note that she's a perfectionist who puts a lot of stress on herself and we're talking about that. I am looking for advice on how to handle this - compassion rarely works! Help!!!

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Z.B.

answers from Toledo on

It sounds like she's overtired. You children simply can't handle not getting enough sleep. Meltdowns and temper tantrums are very common.

My youngest is in kindergarten and, even though his wake up time has not changed, we've had to make his bedtime earlier.

I would move her bedtime up. Kindergarten is a huge transition. It's great that she's loving it and doing well, but it takes a lot out of them. Try giving her an earlier bedtime and see if that helps.

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S.T.

answers from Washington DC on

it's funny how compassion can backfire. even with adults, soothing noises and words can sometimes trigger a 'YOU'RE NOT UNDERSTANDING ME!!!' type of rage.
try to keep in mind that your daughter is awfully young and not really in command of her emotions and reactions. the compassion is awesome and necessary- just don't expect that it's going to *fix* it all the time. sometimes what's needed most is just to change the subject. that can mean anything from giving a grumpy kid a different thing to do (which could be anything from a chore to a treat, depending on the situation) to placing a screaming red-faced little firmly in a different room and letting her bellow it out.
she should be assured that she's heard and understood, but not in the heat of her passions. that's the time to step away.
don't overreact to the dissatisfaction. if she's grumpy about what she's getting for dinner or that it's bathtime, stay calm and firm. if she's rude or naughty, swift dispassionate consequences are the key.
and of course, plenty of laughs and hugs whenever it's possible without reinforcing negative behavior.
she's so small. she's not able to navigate being in charge of the whole family's emotions. don't accord her power that she's not yet capable of wielding wisely.
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R.K.

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Like everyone else said, rest, rest, rest.

Also, this is a great time to honor all daily routines. Routines are reassuring to even the littlest ones.

Fluids. As part of the routines, make sure she is offered enought to drink. School can be very dehydrating.

Remove any pressure you can. If you are, or someone else at home is, a perfectionist, try to ease up on yourself and model a more care-free attitude. If someone at home is a rapid talker or a paragraph talker, slow down a bit and use shorter sentences. Try to welcome her home without questions. Just a hug and a routine to ease into, perhaps a quiet time or, if that's her nature, an outdoor run around time, with no chatting. All these can free up some of her stress and can be useful anytime she is overwhelmed, no matter what the age.

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M.R.

answers from Washington DC on

Is hers a full-day kindergarten program? Many kids, at five, still need more down time than full-day K allows (and rest or nap periods at K are just not the same as real down time or naps), but since more and more schools now have full-day K, I'll figure that's what she's got, and you have to work with what the school requires.

She likely is physically and mentally very tired.

When and where do her meltdowns occur?

What are the triggers?

If you sit down and think through it, there likely is some pattern to the times when she is more likely to have these meltdowns.

Do they tend to happen, say, in the afternoons right after school? She's especially tired and low-energy then (even if she appears to be bouncy or wound up!). First be sure to give her a protein-rich snack right away, even on the drive home from school if you pick her up -- I know that a snack in the car at pick up really made a big difference for my daughter and some friends said the same about their kids.

Then ensure that if she goes right home, she has a little down time before any homework she may have -- kids in K do have a little in many schools, but give her a short break. Don't let the break stretch out too long and homework get pushed too late, though. It should never be after dinner because dinner for a kid this young is pretty close to bedtime and she will lose all focus if she waits until after dinner (well, that's what I found at least). Be sure she has a good place to do homework that is away from her sister -- Big sister needs a space where she feels she can work without little sister being in her way or even in the room. Good light, all the materials ready, and never let homework drag on - if she has made an effort and seems stuck, she is done.

If she does not go right home after school, but goes on to an activity on some days -- I would look at her schedule to be sure she's not doing too much. If there is, say, a dance class or other activity immediately after school each week, see if you can shift it to weekends.

If she is melting down at bedtimes, again, be sure she wasn't doing any homework (however minimal - to her it's a big deal) too close to bedtime. Keep the bedtime routine she had before K as much as you can. If she regresses a little bit and wants you or dad to read a bit more to her, or stay after lights out -- do it. It will not make her babyish, or cause her to be less independent; it just acknowledges that she needs that little bit of extra time with you during a huge transition. It will not spoil her either; she'll get past it.

Is she melting down over things along lines of "I want what I want and I want it now" that she didn't used to do? Being more demanding since school started? Remember, at school she has to "hold it in" all day -- has to listen to and obey the teachers, and move from activity to activity when she's told without expressing that she'd rather do something else, etc. So she may be like a rubber band that's been taut all day, being ever so controlled, and home means she can suddenly let that tautness go -- and that leads to behavior you haven't seen before. It is a sign that she is comfortable and relaxed at home, which may sound odd since she's "disrespectful and dissatisfied" but she feels she can let go with you at home, and blow off all that tension from a long day of being on her toes. The issue is that the release of tension takes some forms that can't really go on too long. But rest assured, it's normal.

If her disrespect includes language (not necessarily "bad words" but ideas and images) that you have never heard before, it's possible -- not super likely but possible -- that she is hearing some new things at school from other kids, and if that's the case, you need to engage the teacher and express concern that she's coming home with some things she sure didn't bring in her head to school.

You can't let disrespect go, so at a time when she is calm and NOT just getting over a meltdown, talk to her in terms she can understand about how to talk to mom and dad. Tell her how when she talks that way, you cannot talk with her. Then next time -- walk away. Just say, "I can't stay and listen when you yell, so when you are ready to talk to me calmly I can come back." Go into the next room. If she follows you yelling or fussing, turn your back and do something else (washing dishes is good). If she persists beyond a second warning, institute a time out in a place that is not her own room -- an utterly boring corner or end of a hall, nothing else in sight. (See the TV "supernanny" Jo Frost's books for good advice on how to make time outs effective discipline.) If you have to escalate to taking away things she values -- do it immediately and calmly, not later and not angrily in the heat of the moment. And ensure that she knows in advance that time outs and/or taking things away will be the results of specific things she does -- do not surprise her with them or spring them on her! She needs to know that if she does X,, then the consequence is Y, every single time.

That's all about discipline but really if you also track the times of her meltdowns, keep her well fed, simply distract her if she starts asking for this and that and is building up to a fuss over "I want" -- that could help.

Do be sure you have a good connection with her teacher. Get to know the school counselor ASAP -- they can be terrific resources and are there for you, not just for your child! See the counselor and ask for ideas about how to handle her. This is what they're there for!

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T.S.

answers from San Francisco on

Compassion is of course the first thing, but sometimes a kid just needs a break.
"Honey I know you are (tired, frustrated, hungry, whatever) but if you can't calm down you need to take some time out"
Don't try to reason with her, argue, bribe, explain, etc. that just makes it worse.
Have her go to her room, or whatever room is "quiet" at your house, and let her know when she calms down she is welcome to come back in and be with the family.
The perfectionist thing is another issue. I can't give you any advice there but teachers usually know exactly how to deal with this kind of thing, so don't be shy about asking her teacher for some advice too!

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W.X.

answers from Boston on

I have to fully agree with Suz T.

I HATE it when folk think their soothing words are helpful--"You will be okay." or "It will be fine".

It is VERY dismissive.

Your daughter feels the same as those of us who want to be heard, not pacified.

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J.S.

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I agree with everyone else. My son started Kindergarten this year and we had to move his bedtime up since they don't nap him. He now goes down at 7:30/8 and is out within 5-10 minutes of getting in bed and I feel like that's still not enough! Kids don't do well when they're not rested and if we wait even 10 more minutes past his regular bedtime, he sometimes loses it and has a tantrum about something really silly b/c he's just so overtired. Good luck!

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B.C.

answers from Norfolk on

When our son was in kindergarten they had nap/quiet time.
His teachers were surprised at how deeply he slept.
So for us, first grade was when they didn't do naps at school anymore and he was one tired grumpy kid in the afternoons.
On the weekends he still napped.
Sometimes after school he'd take a little nap after he got home and had a snack.
It didn't interfere with bed time - he just needed the extra sleep.
He didn't have much homework so we didn't have to worry about that.
Maybe your daughter can have a 30 min nap when she gets home from school.
If that doesn't work then move to an earlier bedtime for her - she needs the extra sleep sometime - more at night might make up for less napping during the day.

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T.F.

answers from Washington DC on

I agree it sounds like she is tired. Maybe first thing when she gets home giver her the option of a mini nap (20 to 30 minutes) or a protein filled snack like peanut butter and celery or hard boiled eggs.

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J.K.

answers from Wausau on

The first thing I'd guess is that she is exhausted, physically and mentally. Kindergarten sucks a lot out of you and some kids take longer to adapt than others.

Is there a quiet place she can go after school to decompress for a bit? A room away from her sibling and household noises?

Is she getting enough sleep? Most 5 year olds need 10-12 hours at night.

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T.F.

answers from Dallas on

She sounds tired. It is an adjustment to go from preschool or staying with mom to a structured environment from 7:45-2:45 daily.

Our K is structured with class work and group work but they also have 2 recess times, one before lunch and one after lunch and after the last recess, they do have down time from about 1:30-1:50. The lights are turned out, they lay on the towel or blanket they have at school during this time. Then from 2-2:40 they have PE, recess or music class with dismissal at 2:45.

When my daughter was young she needed to distress when she got home from school daily (she is 20 and STILL does this daily after college)... this meant completely chilling 20-30 minutes with a healthy snack, tv or just doing nothing to unwind.. There is virtually no HW for K students unless they are behind on sight word recognition and some simple math concepts the second semester in preparedness for 1st grade.

Sometimes it meant an earlier bath time (this was relaxing for my daughter) and bed time. My daughter has always been much better when she gets her sleep.

A tired and not well rested child makes for a cranky child in the house (at least for us it did)

I continued a "routine" for when daughter got home. She loves structure. I allowed her time to talk to me about school and did not bombard her with questions, no matter how meaningful you mean it... no one wants a barrage of questions as soon as they walk in the door. She helped me with dinner prep (time to chat on her terms). I was not strict on my routine.... always be flexible but have some sort of consistency after school.

It is hard to adjust to K. Give her some time and tools to help her adjust.

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❤.M.

answers from Los Angeles on

She is most likely tired. It's a long day. It's new (no relaxing time at home
& fun trips to the park w/mom & sibling).

Make sure she is rested at night (don't overdo it & send her to bed too
early) but a decent time w/a little wind down like reading a book.

Pack a great lunch w/snacks & a drink. Pack what you know she will eat
but add protein items as they have more staying power to help her w/her
long day (a kid protein bar, peanut butter w/celery if she'll eat that & her
school doesn't have a policy against anything "nut" related).
Don't wake her up too early before school but not so close she has to
rush, rush, rush. Keep in mind every child is different. My siblings & I
were all different (2 needed no time to get up & be ready, 1 was hard to
wake up, the other facilated back & forth. 2 were fast movers, 2 were
slow etc.).
Don't plan to do much after school (errand running, grocery shopping etc.)
Get that done before you pick her up.
I only schedule extra stuff on Friday afternoons (parks, eating out etc.).

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