Kids Were Not Properly Supervised at Afterschool Party

Updated on December 18, 2011
K.B. asks from Dulles, VA
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My dd is in 4th. Apparently since only 13 4th graders showed up for the party, the adults left them on their own for two hours to play while the adults all chatted in another room where they could not see or hear the kids.

One of the girls is very catty and decided to play keep away from my dd. I found out my dd was not in sight when an adult called me to see if I had picked up my daughter because she could not find her. I told her she is supposed to ride home with marcy's mom who should be there and to look on the playground which is in the play area but has lots of tunnels. My car was in the shop so I had to call around to find a ride, but luckily she was found instantly.

My d was playing alone on the playground because the kids followed the mean girl's lead, including her best friend, and ran off from her when she climbed on the playground. The mean girl admitted to Marcy's mom she told everyone to keep away from my child. The teacher was at the party and was told about this via cell phone after she had left.

This is a Christian school and the adults normally are on top of the kids. This happened after school at a party hosted by some parents but was an official school event.

What is the best way to address this? We don't go back to school until January. I normally go to every event, but was very ill today. My daughter did not tell because she is in 4th and tried to handle it herself and she could not see any adults around. They were at a place like Chuck E Cheese. Marcy's mom is the one who gave me all these details. My daughter just said catty girl was in a bad mood and being mean again.

Of course, I will be at every event from now. I have trained my daughter to never leave the play area unless an adult goes with her to the bathroom or wherever. She obeyed by not wandering around the eating areas looking for adults she could not see. Apparently there was an employee in the room, but she monitors safety only. It is not her job to babysit and she was not a party host.

Leigh, I asked marcy's mom about no adults being in site and she felt since "only our kids" were there it was totally fine to leave the employee watching. There were others eating, including adults without children I am sure. They do not seem to believe molestation happens very often though my husband and I don't let our child use a public restroom alone because it has happened. I agree about a policy being needed but the responses show most moms feel these places are safe.

Dawn, Marcy's mom said she talked to her daughter and her daughter has never done this before so I hope that made an impact.

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M.D.

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It sounds like your daughter did pretty well under the circumstances. My experience is that 4th grade is when the drama starts with girls and it will probably last until 7th grade. Sigh...

As an official school function, there definitely should be more direct supervision. Now that the teacher knows it would be good to have a follow up conversation in January. The teacher should be helpful in empowering your daughter to stand up to mean girls.

Good luck!

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A.D.

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Mean girls are always going to find a way to keep their bullying under the supervision radar. The same thing could happen on the school playground or just about anywhere. This kind of dynamic is pervasive (and in my experience with 2 girls is 4th grade is about the year it can start to turn ugly) and I think if you feel the exclusion would never have happened if an adult was more watchful, maybe or maybe not. 4th graders are not toddlers. They have plenty of opportunties to interact with peers out of earshot of adults. If you are concerned about safety and her wandering off without an adult knowing, that is one issue. But to say closer supervision would have stopped the mean girl behavior altogether, I would have to say no. The mean girl would just find another way, or maybe another day to play "let's all not play with her." It really stinks that this happened to your DD because I know it hurts a lot to be on the receiving end of that, but I don't think I would address it with the school any further unless the bullying continues. Tomorrow the queen bee with probably tell everyone to not talk to someone else. By next week she could be good friends again with your DD. You never know. I'd encourage my DD to make some plans of her own with a classmate she likes, and move on.

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L.M.

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can you talk to the mean girl's mother? She needs to know about her girl's behavior at school.

The bullying has to stop. Also let the person who was in charge know (in writing) of your concerns.

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D.B.

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I would expect that child to come and apologize to you and your daughter. I would also have a meeting with the headmistress or master of the school and ask for a meeting to take place with all of the girls at the party. The headmistress (master, or principal) and the guidance counselor should be in attendance. The main culprit should have to explain why she did this, and the other girls should have to explain why they chose to follow. Your daugher should tell them how it made her feel.

It's good that Marcy's mother was so forthcoming. I hope she gave her daugher a consequence.

Dawn

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L.F.

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I am so sorry that this happened to your daughter. I would talk with the mean girl's M. and tell her she needs to nip this in the bud with her daughter or you will. Then, notify the teacher and tell them that they need to be on top of these things at school functions and it is unacceptable that your daughter was bullied under their care~ GL

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G.B.

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At Chuck E Cheese the kids always go off and play while the adults go visit. That's the way that place works. I would have been one of the adults that were off visiting too. It is one of the few places on earth where we let the kids have free reign. I am one of those helicopter moms too but at these places the kids can't really get into anything or get out and run off.

I would say to you if you told me that this happened and I was a parent supervising that she never told anyone, that she needed to come to a parent and talk to them about it.

I do think that this girls parents need to know how their daughter treated the kids there. I would expect them to make her apologize but they are probably the example she learns her bad behavior from.

I feel so bad for your girl. She must have been miserable. I would just try and teach her that she is better than this and that she needs to let someone know when it is happening.

Being bullied is a horrible experience that does not stop once one is out of school. It happens in the work place, in marriages, in friendships, etc...it is a fact of life that some people are going to bully others.

I would ask that you go to:

http://www.standforthesilent.org/

Talk to your daughter about the pledge, about standing up to a bully, standing up for someone else who is the victim. If this girl is not changed soon who knows what she will be like in the future.

Maybe this is a program that your daughter can introduce to the school. It may also be that this girl is bullying the other kids too. They need to be empowered to stand up against her and be a cohesive group so that the girl will have no one left out in the cold for her to make a victim of.

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L.N.

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i think it was addressed to a certain extent. the mean girl admitted to what she did, i assume marcy's M. made her apologize, or at least i would hope so. i also ant you to be aware that just because this is a christian school that doesn't instantly eliminate the existence of bullies. they are everywhere. i really have no suggestion to take this any further, because by the time school starts again everything is in the past. i think you should talk to your daughter about learning how to voice her problems/concerns even if you are not around, but to always seek a trusting adult to tell if something goes awry. i try this with my 7 year olds all the time. my kids also attend a catholic school, where bullies are bountiful.

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L.R.

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The responses so far are focusing just on the "mean girl" situation but I think there is a much bigger issue here. Your child was in a public place (and...why exactly is the school having a so-called official function in this place and there is not one school official or teacher present?). The other adults are completely in the wrong for having left children not just unattended but in a place where the adults could not even see them -- for two solid hours!

Any child could have wandered off; gone out a door; been accosted in a restroom; been persuaded to come outside by a stranger. Yes, these are 4th graders and not toddlers, but it was still utterly inappropriate for the attendant adults to abdicate all responsibility. Just because it's "a Chuck E. Cheese" type place and there is an employee around does not mean the parents were allowed this little time off they took in another room. The employee is not responsible for, nor could she have kept an eye on, every single kid. (Someone posted that these types of places are where adults can relax and kids have free rein -- These aren't babysitting businesses, people. The kids still are the responsibility of the adults who brought them.)

Your child disappeared -- to the point that another parent had to call you and assumed your child had left the building! That would worry me FAR more than the very typical kid spat being talked about here.

If I were in your shoes, I would ask for a meeting of your PTA or whatever the parent organization is at this school and say it's time for a policy that when a school event is held, parents and/or teachers must be present in a certain adult-to-child ratio and actually in the same room as the children. The moms who were at this event will be miffed but point out to them: They thought your child had LEFT. If they'd been in the same room paying attention to the children they could have redirected the mean girl and might have known much sooner when your daughter was left alone on the playground.

There is a fundamental safety and responsibility issue here that would have me hopping mad, frankly. Your child could have decided she was done with this party and that she would try to walk home, or walk to a phone and call you. It's happened around here -- a kid who was not happy at a party and just decided to walk home, sparking some terror for the parents. The result ended up OK, but anything could have happened.

Even the most responsible, level-headed kid, in a situation where she's being bullied or is unhappy, could make a mistake like that. And it's up to the parents to BE parents--for all the kids, not just their own--and not assume, "They're fine because they're in this kind of place, and there's a staffer in there." The adults could have taken it in turns to be in the room with the kids.

I'd really get involved and insist on some policies for the future.

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