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Just report them. let the hoa take care of it.you should be able to anonymously report them and their junk.
Half venting here...but not sure what to do. Our neighbors parked their Winnebego in front of our house (probably because they have so many cars they can't fit it in front of their own house). Last year they left their Winnebego out for 7 days (apparently where they store it excludes July for a special event). Anyway, it's against our HOA to have an RV for more than 3 days in the neighborhood. But to have it in front of our house is really what's getting me mad.
In addition to that they leave their trash cans on the side of their house (also against HOA).
I feel like reporting them but I don't want to start a feud. I did actually talk with the HOA about "some houses" leaving trash out and they said they check this regularly and even fine people who do this. The covenants say trash cans cannot be visible from the street - theirs are and they smell bad too.
If they are checking, it's not doing any good. Our neighbors have had their trash cans out for months.
Anyway...any suggestions? Would you report them or have a heart to heart talk? I hate confrontation!
Just report them. let the hoa take care of it.you should be able to anonymously report them and their junk.
This is exactly why you have a HOA. Take photos and send documentation to them. It is their job to enforce the rules.
Use your HOA. Make them abide by their rules.
Have you asked them to move the RV? If so, what did they say? If not, why haven't you tried talking with them? Maybe if you started acting like NEIGHBORS and not enemies?? It might help the situation. Get to know your neighbors.
I've lived in the same neighborhood for 22 years. I know our neighbors, they know me. We have a new neighbor who really sits "wrong" with me and admittedly we started out on the wrong foot. I wish her no ill-will but damn. She puts her trash in neighbors trash cans without asking them first. Sorry - that's wrong. She walks her dog and drops her poop bags in someone else's trash can - again - that's just wrong in my book. We had to talk with her about the trash situation as the person she was putting her trash into had already asked her nicely to stop. As block captains (we live in an HOA) it was our job to talk with her. She now doesn't "feel welcome" in our neighborhood. That's on HER as we have parties and get together's and she doesn't participate. We don't force people to participate in the block parties. Nor do we beg.
Personally I would just go over and talk with them. Ask them nicely to move their RV. Take baby steps and don't dump on them all at once. Ask them to move the RV so that your friends can park in front of your home when they come to visit.
Document your conversation - I know it sounds funky but document your conversation and then wait to see what happens. If after 3 days the RV is not moved, contact your HOA and tell them it needs to be moved since it's been there longer than the rules state it can be.
You need to learn how to talk with people and it not be a "confrontation" - that means stop waiting until you're mad to have the conversation.
ETA - do NOT damage their property! that is wrong!! do NOT follow that members advice. DO NOT dump their trash cans either. That is just rude and it won't fix the situation.
This is the HOA's job. I'm currently renting a privately owned condo in an HOA managed development and they are like the KGB when it comes to people breaking the rules. Make a call, AND an email, so you have something in writing. Include photos. The HOA won't (or shouldn't) mention that you are the one complaining, it should be strictly anonymous. It's their JOB to enforce the rules so make sure they do it, that's what you're paying them for!
If it were me, I would probably take some pictures with dates and write down the infractions. I might see if simply asking them to put their cans in and move the rv works. It would depend on what kind of people they seem to be, which you probably can tell a little bit just by living near them. I would be mad too, since I could not enjoy my yard without stench and having a behemoth parked out my front window. If they seem unfriendly in general, I would just take my complaints to the hoa and let them know it's an ongoing problem. I would also follow up if nothing was done.I can't believe the hoa has not noticed this stuff before, so maybe they need a kick in the butt to get things done. Good luck to you!
Let me ask you this: Do you really think that if you had a heart to heart with them anything would change? (other than perhaps them getting pissy with you for talking to them about it)
If not, then why bother. Personally, I'd take pictures of the offenses, copy the sections in the HOA rules that pertain to these offenses, along with the penalties, and mail a copy anonymously to the neighbor and cc the HOA Association.
I feel that an HOA has rules for exactly the reasons you are describing - to eliminate the need to approach a neighbor about issues like this. Let them do the heavy lifting.
Go with the HOA...you can be anonymous or just let them know to keep your identity confidential so as not to start a feud (I'm sure they deal with that stuff regularly - some of the HOA meetings I've been to can get pretty heated)
I'm sure you pay plenty of money to have an HOA....let them earn it - if they have rules, let them enforce them! Otherwise why have them?
I would go knock on the door when the RV is parked there and say in a cheery voice, Hi neighbor! We would appreciate it if you would not park your RV in front of our house. We like to keep that space open for our visitors. Thanks! Call the HOA (repeatedly if needed) about the trash. I hate neighbors like this.I get along well with all my neighbors...but we used to have one who had no pride of ownership and let the house get run down, let the sidewalks get overgrown with weeds, would leave out trash and old things they wanted to take to the dump but never did (like a huge old TV and a huge old couch) and rented out rooms to students so that there were a gazillion cars out front. She moved thankfully and a new family lives there now.
First, I would take some photos - but be subtle.
HOAs are sometimes really political, and one-sided. They're regulated to some extent, but really, they're made up of people just like you: neighbors who live there. Often there are situations where one HOA member overlooks his golfing buddy's extreme violations. But HOAs aren't allowed a free rein and there are usually state laws that ensure that a duly organized HOA fulfills its responsibilities. .
That means you'll have to document things. Start with the photos. When you speak with an HOA member, record the date, that person's name, and that person's response. Keep these notes carefully organized.
Then I would go to your neighbors, politely. Explain that the Winnebago is blocking your front yard, and ask them to move it. It doesn't have to be a confrontation - it can just be one neighbor talking to another. (Record that date and the gist of the conversation in your notebook). Make sure you can do this without getting angry or using rough language or threats.
Are there any other neighbors who are affected by the smelly trash and the big RV in the street? If you're the only one, that makes things harder.
But the HOA is supposed to protect all its neighbors. If they're not doing their job, you may have to find your state HOA regulations and go further. (And if you do go to the HOA over the RV and the trash, be specific. Don't say "some houses". Say "the blue house at number 1234 Main St.".
You also might call your non-emergency police number, and ask if RVs can be parked for a length of time in a neighborhood. There are probably city codes and code enforcements that you can check online as well.
Contact the HOA. There is no reason to approach the neighbors unless you are friends and from the sounds of it you are not. If you are not friends with them they are going to care less of what you think about what they are doing and I would assume of about the fines they will have to pay for doing what they are doing.
Sic the HOV on them - that's what they are there for.
If you have other neighbors that have complaints - have them complain with you to the HOV so they can see it's just not one person but several who are concerned that the HOV rules are not being followed and enforced.
The HOV should know what local laws apply - the town police might tow it away and/or write them a ticket.
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I would not confront them directly.
You don't know if they are nuts and/or armed.
The HOA has rules and they need to be enforced - so let the HOA handle it.
call the police and have the RV towed.
Tell the HOA that they need to follow up and ensure the rules of parking are being met.
The trash cans? Why not just pull them up and put them in their driveway? We have elderly neighbors and we routinely bring their trash cans up to the garage door for them.
Take a photo of the RV and the trash cans. Send it to the HOA. Ask them to explain to you why this doesn't violate the rules.
Normally, I'd say to be a little understanding of people's need to park elsewhere when the usual place is crowded or off limits or whatever. But if there are multiple violations, that's something else again. And how is it that you can smell the trash cans? Are the houses that close? That seems odd to me. Perhaps there's more going on with what they're keeping in them than I realize.
You know, anybody on that street could be turning them in for parking there. Every single time they do this, you should complain. This keeps you from confronting them. I promise you that the HOA has no problem with it.
So....
I am assuming that the spot in front of your house is public parking. There's nothing you can do about that...as it's public! You could park your cars there and leave your driveway empty :)
The trash can: I have a clarifying question. I have never seen trash cans in the area that I live in anywhere BUT the side of the house. Are they relatively new transplants to your neighborhood? Would they just assume (as I would) that they can keep their trash cans on the side of the house?
As someone else said...you have an HOA for a reason. You could handle the trash like a good neighbor, "Oh hey paul and susan...I notice that your trash cans are kept on the side of the house, did you know that we have this silly rule they need to be kept somewhere people can't see them?" But to be honest I would just about DIE if someone said anything to me about trash cans lol. As long as they are closed I don't really understand the issue. OR you could go behind their back and take pictures and send it to the HOA. Either way....is this really a hill that you want to die on? Is this really that big of a deal?
Good Luck!
We had a neighbor at our old house whose son left his car in front of our house whenever he came over and he would stay for a couple of days a a time. It really annoyed me because we didn't want to be staring at someone else's car when we looked out our window. Also, if we had guests to our home, they had to park in front of another neighbor's house - so we would be then inconveniencing them.
We didn't have a HOA there, and I think my husband approached the son (early 20's) and just said that we liked keeping that spot available for our guests to our home. He moved it.
Something like "Is there somewhere else you could park your RV? We'd like to be able to keep this spot free for our friends and family who visit" if you don't want to go the HOA route.
However that's what they are for. If they go around and monitor these things, or it could be simply any neighbor who could have reported it - then I'd just go ahead and report it. Why not? Have them handle it by saying that they were doing a routine check of the neighborhood and noticed the RV had been parked on the street for more than a few days. Ask that the handle it in that manner to make things less awkward for you as their neighbor. They must have handled these situations in the past.
Good luck :)
I would be frustrated also. It's one thing to have it there a day or so if they can't help it and them come over and let you know.
Is there some reason it can't be in front of their own house? Oh see now (have many in front of their own ugh)
Have you been neighborly? Have you talked with them several years so you and they know each other? If you haven't talked with them about parking and garbage? If not how would they know it's a problem?
You say that the last time they parked in front of your house was last year. You also said they're not able to keep it in storage in July. So.. why is parking in front of your house is a problem for you? Seems to me that complaining about something that happens one time each year is unneighborly.
Your HOA cannot do anything unless you call when the RV is actually parked there and you give your name and address. Authorities are not going to expend their time and energy tracking down a complaint from an anonymous reporter and unknown location of the problem.
About the garbage, is your problem with the bins being beside their house more about it being against the rules or they actually are an eyesore and smell'? I suggest if you make your complaint about being an eyesore and smelly than about the rules. However', you"ll have to give s specific address.