How Do You Handle a Teenager That When Conf

Updated on March 27, 2008
L.N. asks from Wallingford, PA
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hello everyone, How do you handle a teenager when they say "i don't care" or "fine" when they are confronted with something they were suppossed to do and act like they don't care what you are going to do to punish them. To some people this will seem like a stupid issue to argue about but I feel very strong about it and I about it. Knowing that she has depression and is always "tired" , having her eat breakfast is important for her. I get her the gotarts, they are like a breakfast bar. This is what she request for breakfast because she does not feel hungry in the morning and because she never leaves enough time to eat a bowl of cereal or anything that will take more than 3 minutes. I require her to eat it before she leaves the house because I found out that she would not eat it if i let her take it with her. For example, my 16 year oldhas big issues with being told she has to do something, like eating breakfast in the morning, wearing a winter coat in the winter, "normal request" from a parent. The only way she will do what is expected of her is if I stand there in the morning and tell her to do it. If i happen to sleep through the time she leaves for school, then it is gaurunteed that she will not eat breakfast. When I asked her "what it is going to take to get you to do what you are asked to do on a regular basis", like eating breakfast. And she responds...I don't know, I don't care, . And when i say fine if you don't care then you will be punished from the computer and phone until you do and can give me an answer on how you can remember to eat breakfast every morning. and she responds "fine", whatever, i don't care" ...so this gets me soo mad. Because she will not give me the satisfaction on understanding what i am asking of her and what is expected of her to do. It's not like i am asking her to make pancakes or anything that will take a long time, it is 3/4 smaller than a poptart. For her it boils down to defiance, she does what she wants to do. this morning she told me that it was late and she didn't have time to eat breakfast ...however, i saw that she was on myspace for 15 minutes before she left for school. I am getting myself so upset about it because i feel that i can not get her to be responsible and learn and over and over she only does what she is told to do if i am babying her. this is across the board and not just a breakfast problem. Any suggestions on how to get her to understand i'm telling her to eat breakfast for her own good, telling her to wear a coat for her own good, etc....

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some things that were asked i would like to mention: I am her gaurdian who has had her in my house for 2 years now, I have been taking her to counseling for almost 2 years now, she is getting a medical evaluation for depression meds next week, She knows the rules of the house , she has chores to do (unload dishwasher, set table for dinner, clean her room on sundays, bring back trashcans 2 times a week, brush dogs once a week) which she receives an allowance for. She has to be reminded and told to do them every day, and tells me she doesn't want to do them because she's tired. Always tired. She was made to join something of her choice in her school this year because last year she came home and wanted to sleep the rest of the day away until dinner and then back to bed, however , she went to one meeting and told me a million excuses n why there was nothing going on , no more meetings etc...so she never went back and eventually quit. I sometimes sleep in when she's off to school because i'm tired too. I have a 2 year old who has an eating problem and was just discharged from a months stay at chop because of it. His eating problem makes eating and therfore sleeping inconsistent. Soemtimes he wakes up 3-4 times a night. I taked to her about how i feel about her not eating breakfast and that i am concerned about her and her health rather than just trying to be controling. she knows this...its frustrating b/c alot of you said to lay down the rules but i have had this conversation with her over and over and she knows that i love her and am just trying to make her healthy. She is a very fit girl , does not struggle with weight issues so i thought getting her the chocolate gotarts were ok because she said she would "remember" to eat breakfast if i got what she wanted. Eating something is better than nothing ..right??? maybe not. i understand that she may be having a midmorning energy crash b/c of them. I will get some other breakfast suggestions and see what happens. after taking to my husband he says that i should just remind her that its important to eat breakfast and if she doesn't ..she doesn't. i don't love this suggestion but alot of you also said this and even though i feel that it is important for her her to eat every day...its almost not worth getting myself so upset about it b/c thats what happens. i get upset...she gets mad..thinks i'm controlling her..i get more mad b/c she doesn't get it...and then...i punish her from things i know that deep down she will miss (computer)...and then she says "whatever"...and i get upset again...never ending .so we will see what happens this approach, i appreciate all of your suggestons!

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O.O.

answers from Kansas City on

Hi L.,
I'm sure it is extremely frustrating for you. Maybe she is completely tuning you out because you are insisting that she do every single thing you tell her to do your way. Maybe pick your battles a little more. Focus on the important things. A few cold days without a winter coat may make more of a point than you harping on it each day. Same with breakfast. I'm just thinking that some of the issues may be small in comparison to the overall situation. I would save the confrontations for things that REALLY matter--like is she on meds for depression or does she NEED to see a therapist? Those things you should make her do--homework, chores, etc. Just a thought. Good luck to you.

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G.C.

answers from York on

L.,

We have walked this same road with our son. I have so much to share with you that typing it here would take volumns. And my neighbor is likewise dealing with her 16 yr. old currently with similar behavior. Please e-mail be at ____@____.com so that we can connect and I can share our experience, what worked, what didn't work, etc. Our son is now 21. We've worked through so much with him. Our home was a daily war zone. While some behaviors still exist, we and he handle them very differently now and the war zone hasn't been present for several years. There is hope! Please feel free to contact me.

Gratefully,
G.

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P.A.

answers from Harrisburg on

Pick your battles - focus on breakfast and forget the smaller stuff like the coat. For depression and energy/focus at school, she needs breakfast. It should be higher in protein and fiber, and avoid refined sugars & preservatives (the poptarts are not good for her mood or her grades). If she is up for going to the grocery store, let her pick her foods and have fun with it and give her some control. Let her know that you know she can make the right choices and give her the space to try. Give her 3 or 4 heathier options and maybe have a fun taste test at home together - like Kashi bars or Nature's Path. If she loves peanut butter, she can even coat the top of the cereal bar with that. Could even try Almond or Cashew butter. And let her know that eating breakfast will help control her weight. It keeps her metabolism up and burning more calories throughout the day. Every teen girl wants to hear that! and it's true!

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J.J.

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Puberty is still running strong isn't it???

With my 13 year-old if he eats breakfast that's great if he doesn't than it's his fault not mine.I'll remind him several times to eat and when he forgets it's his fault....And onething to make sure when you say no computer,phone or whatelse make sure you follow through qith this...if you aren't than that could cause a problem.
My oldest got a cell from his grandparents and he was being mouthy and not listening..i took it off of him for 2 days and he has really chilled out.
It's so hard and you feel like you are beating your head up against a wall and as my mom would say
"I wish it'd get easier but it doesn't."

Good luck

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O.A.

answers from Philadelphia on

Teenagers are alot like toddlers. They are exploring the world around them with a newfound independence. And, just like with toddlers, they need boundaries but they also need to make some of their own choices to feel a sense of independence and ownership of those choices.
If she chooses not to eat breakfast, she will either regret it later and be hungry or maybe she's not a breakfast person. If she is hungry at school for a couple days she WILL eventually remember to eat breakfast, either at home or at school. Also, if she is going through a stressful situation, she may really just not be hungry in the morning.
As far as her myspace goes...there is really no reason for a teenager to by on the computer in the morning before school, kwim? If its time to eat breakfast she needs..then having a no computer rule before school would give her that time.
I don't know if this is a new situation for the both of you, but have you tried making up some 'house rules'? Meaning rules that are really important to your family that there is no compromise? Then you can talk about the 'grey areas' (where there are no set rules) together and work out something that is a compromise for both of you.

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L.A.

answers from Pittsburgh on

The first thing that comes to my mind is to do the following:

Log on to the computer (is it a family computer or does she have her own? use hers and block yours) before she does in the morning. That way, you can say - in a perky voice - "I'll be onlin for while, so you might as well use this time to get breakfast."

If you don't have a Myspace, get one. It doesn't have to be much, just to log on. Then insist that she "friend" you or you will shut her off of the internet. YOu will learn a great deal about your daughter on her Myspace page. Been there, done that.

E.A.

answers from Erie on

If you are sleeping in instead of getting her off to school she may be reading that as you don't care enough about her to follow through with your advice. As the adult, you get to set the rules, but if she slips up the punishment should fit the crime. In other words, taking away the computer for not eating breakfast doesn't really make sense. It is not uncommon for teens to not be hungry in the morning, because their biological clocks aren't set like ours, they simply eat later because they should be sleeping later. She probably gets hungry about 9am, when she's already at school. Is it possible for you to send her to school with the gotart and maybe a piece of fruit? Can she sneak off to the bathroom and eat it in there or something?

Try to approach however you solve the issue as if you are trying to help her make good decisions, not laying down the rules, kwim? Ask her input, see how she would solve the problem. Explain why it's a problem, that you are concerned that as a growing young woman, she needs proper nutrition. Her depression may be situational, but if she isn't eating right, that will only make it worse. I find I need a lot of protein in the morning, or my mood starts crashing. Things like cheese, yogurt, peanut butter are good choices. Even nuts and seeds with dried fruit.

I wish you the best in this, the teen years can be hard because we want to still treat them as children since they don't quite have the brains of adults. But they really can make good choices if we give them the right tools, allow them to fail occasionally, and build a relationship on mutual trust so they can come ask for help when they need it.

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S.W.

answers from Philadelphia on

If I remember what it was like to be that age . . .and it wasn't too long ago. Then she definitely does care, but doesn't want you to think she does. Correction, she wants you to know how she feels about it without having to tell you and without having to talk about it. but she definitely cares about your reprimands and punishments. And, hard as it is to do otherwise, getting mad over her apparent apathy is not the best reaction. She sounds like she might benefit from a clean slate. I like the idea of setting down the house rules, and going over them with her, getting some input back form her as well. Although it might feel like pulling teeth, and she might claim to have no input, it is better to ask. At 16 she wants to feel like she has a say in some things and control over things.

Also, for someone who struggles with depression, and sugary breakfast is just asking for a midmorning crash. And teenage girls are also so conscious about their weight. If she claims to not have the time in the morning for breakfast, then I would provide her with two options for breakfast on the go, something like an apple or a banana, or a whole grain bagel. Protein is definitely key to keeping her energy level up, but it is difficult to work that into an 'on the go' breakfast without buying those ridiculous hot pockets or something like it. If she likes cream cheese, that, on half a bagel, is a great option for breakfast. Even the whole grain english muffins with some Nutella(tastes like Ferraro Rocher, and is made from hazelnuts and cocoa)provide hearty fiber and protein. That will carry her through the morning much better. Make it a house rule that you provide the basics for breakfast, but she is responsible for taking and eating her breakfast. I have a 14 year old and a 15 year old, but they are boys. At some point, you have to let them be responsible and suffer the consequences. It's 20 degrees out and I can tell them to wear their coats, but the hoodie looks 'cooler'(despite the claims that the coats don't fit in the locker) so they fore-go the coat and come home complaining of freezing their butts off. Does this mean that they will wear the coat next time, probably not, but they know there is a good reason why I am telling them to wear it, and when they have kids, they will go through the same thing with them. Some things, you just have to let go.

Work with her, listen to her. Although she probably isn't saying much, pay special attention to what she is saying. You are still the adult/parent but she is old enough to fall on her butt every now and then because you allowed her to make her own choices. Just don't say "I told you so" when it happens.

And even though it is unlikely, it is worth mentioning. Is she on any medication for her depression? If so, pay very close attention to her claims that she 'doesn't care' I have a younger sister who was on medication for anxiety and depression and claimed to not care about anything. Simplistically put, she ended up stealing from my mother repeatedly and getting involved with the wrong guy. She is off the medication now and can talk about how she was feeling at the time objectively, but is incredibly ashamed of her actions and states that, at the time, she really didn't care, she didn't feel anything but what she wanted that would make her happy for the moment. And she had no idea why she was doing what she was doing.

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