How Do I Get These Boys to STOP PEEING on the FLOOR or TOILET SEAT!?

Have them sit to pee. My guy is not circumcized, he doesn't sploosh, even when standing, and he'll be 4 next month. Tell them to sit.

My husband says it makes no difference if they're circumsized or not.

He also says there is no answer to getting them peeing in the toilet, besides for them to grow up and get married - their wives will sort it out. My husband can be kind of a dick sometimes.

The retraining, making them clean up daily etc. are all great. I'd add that this is so unsanitary that it should involve discipliine like losing desired items (electronics) or activities (TV time etc.) if they can't get their act together. They are old enough to connect losing some thing desirable with their own problem behaviors.

I would add one devious thing if you are really upset.

I'd get a water alarm and not tell them. There are small box-shaped alarms that you sit on the floor and if any liquid touches the bottom, a sharp alarm goes off. If they are really peeing to the point of puddles on the floor and not just dampness, and it hits that alarm, they are going to get quite a wake-up call. If you can put the alarm where they won't see it, all the better. They really are too old to be that disgustingly messy and unsanitary.

Tell them you are going to invite one of their friends over to clean up their pee.
I have 2 boys, when they missed they cleaned it up.
You havent found the right currency to use on them yet I guess.
Why would they be peeing on the seat? Don't they even bother to lift it?
Get more creative with the punishment, that's all I can think of.
You don't want them to be messy men, your daughters in law will never forgive you.
My husband sits to pee ;)

RESPECT pure and simple respect. Where is their dad in all of this? Does he make a mess when he pees too?

They will follow the example set by dad. I think this is a conversation for dad to have with them. If dad is not available then an uncle or grandpa.

Basically, they need to learn to respect you and your boundries. It goes beyond peeing all over the bathroom but to all parts of their life. Mom said so ----- so do it darn it. !!!!!!

i've been having to "retrain" almost since the beginning, as well. we've had to retrain on flushing, wiping, and washing hands. UGH. granted, mine is only 6. but what worked for us was catching him when he wasn't even out of the bathroom yet, or had just walked out. "did you flush? better check." did you wash your hands? really? let me see..." either he realized i wasn't going to let him slide, OR he was reminded so many times it finally became habit...either way...i cracked down and that helped. i know it is harder with older boys but hey, if nothing else is working....back to square 1!! everytime you hear that flush, just make a mental note to remind them. "son did you make a mess? CHECK!" i'm sure at least partly it's because it's not habitual for them to check when they get done.

L.,

Have them sit down.
I know it's 'not cool'. Some guys say its emasculating (not really-- we're not removing the crown jewels here!), but I've known at least two families who have had to have the floor and subfloor replaced due to urine. That costs a lot of money. Like, hundreds of dollars.

Clean it up or sit to pee. Those are the options you give. I know several men (and my own son) who sit instead of stand. They will stand at urinals and out in public, but one tells me that "sitting is just more relaxing". L., with Kiddo-- I've had maybe about 10 drops on the toilet seat and a couple occasional 'pee-throughs' (when he is in a rush and he starts peeing before he gets himself situated, so that it goes out under the seat and to the floor). But this is NOTHING compared to what you are dealing with.

Make'em sit. Retrain them with rewards, if need be. I'd be using a cumulative positive incentive plan-- check the bathroom five times a day at specific times and every time it's clean, the boys earn a point. 50 points (10 days) means that they can choose a video or get a treat-- something family oriented (no toys) that everyone can enjoy.

I agree to retrain. For weeks. A pain but who wants their mom in the bathroom with them. Get your dead serious face on and police till they get it. You have to make them care. Like most things, boys just don't care.

I always counted the first time I heard them wash their hands after using the restroom as a victory that only a mother could understand!

It's NOT "just how boys are." My brothers never did that. My husband doesn't do it. My nephews don't do it.

I would tell them to pay attention and make sure they aim into the toilet and clean up after themselves or else you'll be in the bathroom with them to make sure they can do it until they do it properly.

I would bet that they don't do that at school. Because they know better.

EDIT: I know that those of you who know me know I have all girls, but I've helped toilet train my share of boys. I was a nanny for several years in college and was older when my kid brother was born, and helped toilet train him (I was one of his main caregivers). Even since becoming a mom, I've been around/babysat many, many toilet training boys. Just getting my creds out there. ;-)

Make them sit. In fact, a friend that has 4 boys insists they sit, and the oldest is 11.

you start taking away priviliges. This is not ok. Not on any level. If they are doing here are they doing it at school? friends houses? public restrooms? Gross.

Do go in with them every time. And make a big production out of first you HOLD "IT" then you point it to the toilet. give them some cheerios like toddlers and have them aim and shoot them.

also each time you find it. go get them both and make them clean it up. Not you. And if it is the middle of the night then so be it. And remind them that if it is to big a deal then they can sit down like the girls do.

if it continues then you start taking privileges away. from both of them. (make sure its not dad doing this lol) first offense no video game time, second offense no tv at all, 3rd offense no going out to play. and just keep taking things away you will find the one that matters pretty quickly.

It's a riddle of the ages! Lol
I'd be happy with pee neatly OR flush! Haha
Mine just turned 10 and it's getting better, so I think it's a maturity thing.
When forgetting to flush was a bigger issue here, the threat of -.50 from allowance for each non flushed toilet was VERY motivating.
Have you seen the new Windex pump cleaner? I got it for my kitchen, but I might get 2 more for the bathrooms. Works perfectly for "rim" clean ups!

I don't have the answer, but if you figure it out, please let me know! The boys bathroom in my house is awful- I should be paid to clean it. I just hope we either add on or have a new house in the next few years, because there is no way I am making my little girl share a bathroom with her four disgusting brothers!

Instead of .25 cents.....make them pay you a dollar, then two dollars, and so on. Then they will maybe get the point.

it's laziness, & as others have said...time to stand over them & watch them like hawks!

In addition, I used to take away fav activities. If they make a mess in the bathroom, they had to thoroughly clean the mess + mop the floor + lose whatever they'd been doing....whether it was Legos, video games, etc. One hour of downtime. Of course this was after months of battling them.

& if they had friends over, I would back out of the bathroom & find the crew. I would announce to my son, "hit the bathroom".....& he would explain to his friends what needed to be done. In this case, they just had to clean up the mess....& I mopped afterwards when they were all gone.

But I have to admit: girls can be just as bad. Little girls dribble on the seat & drip onto the floor if they're prone to getting off the seat to grab the TP! See it all the time in my daycare. :)

Ditto the retraining.

In the meantime, wash everything down with bleach. Line the floors with newspapers, and tape cheap plastic tablecloths to the wall and behind the toilet. Line the area between the lid and the tank with folded up newpapers or paper towels. That should cut down the smell/mess.

In my house, peeing while standing is a priviledge, not a right. If one can not pee while standing correctly (as in getting urine all over) then they are required to sit down "like a girl" as well as have me accompany them to the bathroom to make sure they are sitting down and not getting pee all over. I have only had each boy pee on the floor once ;-) Their aim is impeccable now. My "boys" are 30, 7, and 5.

I think it's just how boys are. My husband still sometimes misses the toilet and gets it on the floor! My son who is 5 and is not circumcised also has this problem, although it's not as bad as it used to be. I don't know what to tell you to do besides making them clean it up every time. Sorry

I always make my boys clean it up and have since they were 5 with no questions asked. I simply call them into the bathroom. Once they get there I have some Lysol wipes and a pair of gloves waiting one them to clean clean clean. Needless to say this has helped them hit the potty almost every time. At night the rule is you MUST sit to pee since they are only 1/2 awake and NEVER could hit the potty in the middle of the night. Good Luck!

I haven't read any of the other responses, but I wanted to add my 2 cents. All of the males in my house sit to pee. A few times my son has tried the standing position and on those few occassions he has been caught. Not because I watch him but because there is pee everywhere. So, as a result, I call him in, hand him a rag and tell him to clean the toliet. He really hates doing that, so he remembers in the future to sit so he won't have to clean up his mess. I refuse to clean up urine. I will happily scrub a toliet, but I will not WILL NOT, clean urine up off the floor or the toliet. It's gross!

I would hand them the 409 and tell them that for the entire afternoon they are on toilet duty. They must stand outside the bathroom all afternoon and they must clean the toilet hourly whether anyone has used it or not. Eventually they will get tired of being on toilet duty and hopefully will become more aware. If not, the toilet will be the cleanest in town and there will be nothing for you to worry about walking around bare footed or sitting down in the middle of the night. It's a win/win for you.

I agree, that's gross. And I have no suggestions on how to train your guys to pee neatly. But there are 2 uncircumcised boys in my house and no pee on the seat or floor, even when they were little. Whether they sit or stand, they need to aim. So whatever your boys choose to do, please know that it is possible for them to learn to point and shoot with better accuracy than what you've seen so far.

When you find pee on the floor or the seat, make them clean it up - not just the pee, but the whole bathroom, whether the rest of the room needs it or not. They will learn what a pain it is keeping a bathroom clean.

I'm working on the theory that eventually DS (7) will get tired of having to clean the toilet seat every time I find it. It is much less of an issue (for me) since he is now only allowed to pee in his own bathroom. That is also the guest bathroom so I do need to police more aggressively when we (rarely) have house guests. He is circumcised to I don't think that has anything to do with it. Oddly he ALWAYS washes his hands and never seems to make a mess in a restaurant bathroom or at other peoples' homes. Small blessings I guess.

There job every night is to clean the toilet. Mon, Wed, Fri one child gets to clean the toilet and Tues, Thurs, Sat the other child gets to clean the toilet. Or have them clean the whole bathroom. You have to inspect it before and after the job is done and it has to be done correctly. Have them do it until they can pee in the toilet properly.

N.