If you read my post about selling my car to a criminal (unknowingly, of course), well there's more. He sold it to a woman for $600, but signed the title in both the seller and the buyer spots (intentionally), she didn't notice, so when she went to DMV, they won't title the car to her unless he comes to VA DMV in person to correct this. Well he already took off to Dallas, TX!!
Because I can find people, easily, I've tracked him down in TX, have the number and name of the 'friend' he's staying with, this poor hustled woman's information, as well as this criminal's new prepaid cell phone number.
I had to go to DMV today, and they questioned me on selling the car to this guy... so now I'm kind of into it to.
Would it maybe right the wrongs to file a police report? The woman who got hustled already has, and has implied that she'd appreciate it if I did the same. I'm only hesitant because I think it's going to bring in my husband's employer, since the criminal was previously employed with them (but owes then a years worth of rent; he broke his contract).
What do I do?
@Cheryl, the guy at DMV who was questioning me asked if the woman had filed, I said yes... he asked if I had filed and I said no, and he asked me why not?... I know *I* did everything right, that part I'm not worried about. But knowing where he went, and having the information to contact him, wouldn't that help the police track him down so he can pay back the monies owed to everyone?
Like I just told Cheryl, $600 is a felony, grand larceny. We can help the police get this guy... does that make sense? Or should I just leave it alone?
@Toni: I know they can find me, I'm not hiding ;) I actually just posted on a question this morning about how unbelievably easy it is to find people with the smallest bit of information. THAT I'm not worried about ;)
He DID title it to himself, then 'sold' the car to this woman (meaning, stole her money)... I wouldn't be filing criminal charges; filing a police report is just reporting the information I have...
I dont think you have anything to file on. you could give the info you found to the police but as for a report I dont think there is anything you could do.
Rach, I can't see where you have anything to file a police report ABOUT to be perfectly honest. As you know, my hubs is a cop & so over the years I've learned to break things down to their simplest terms. Here's how I see it based on what you've told us: You sold the car to a jerk. You turned in your tags & notified DMV. **You're done with the situation at this point.** Jerk sold the car to an entirely separate 3rd party and screwed her. This part has nothing to do with you, and there's nothing you can do about it. I know it sucks knowing someone wronged another person, but honestly, the cops aren't going to take your word for it on where he is to follow him & track down money owed to people, they're just not. Anyway, at the very most you can pass the info on to the woman & your hub's boss/buddy so they can hopefully use it to their advantage.
oh R.....i'm kinda torn on this one...
If you legally sold the car to him (yeah - at a loss but as you said - that was your choice) and did everything right - you can't file a police report as you did everything by the book....you signed it over to him, legally, did the DMV and Insurance stuff...so I don't think you CAN file a police report...you made an agreement with him to sell the car for X price....he paid - right? if he didn't pay - then heck yeah - you have a problem...however, if he paid you, then you don't have a horse in this race...
it will be up to the other W. who was deceived and your husband's place of business to file suit against him....
if you were going to file a report - what would it be for?
i wouldn't file a police report. the car was out of your hands, right? he was legit with you? i would give the woman the info that you found on him and let her deal with it.
As long as you filed the paperwork when you sold the car, stay out of it unless you are contacted by the police. If the man is arrested and goes to trial if you are needed they will call you.
In your own words: "Because I can find people easily".....Take care, if the people you "track down" are serious criminals, they also will be able to "track you, your family and employers down", and a simple issue can turn into a lot of trouble that you didn't want, need or expect.
Blessings....
You don't really have anything to file for. He didn't wrong you. He wronged the woman and the employer.
What I would do:
1. If you have the other woman's information, contact her with what you found so that she can call the officer overseeing her report and update her report. Or, she could call the police in Dallas, TX and give the information to them.
2. Give your information to your husband's employer so that they can file a report, and or update it.
M.
You don't really have a report to file. He didn't do anything "criminal" to you, but I would strongly encourage you to share the information with the police that you have. If you don't, you could be charged with something related to "knowing but not sharing".
Your husband's employer will likely get pulled into this anyway and HE needs to file a report regarding the owed rent.
Give the info to your husband's employer so they can find him. And it seems you are in contact with the other woman. I would get the police report number from her and then contact the police department and see if you can add an additional statement to her report. If you don't have contact with her, go to the station anyway with both her name and his name and they should be able to locate the police report. I don't see where you can file a separate report since he really didn't do anything wrong to you. But you have vital information so you should definitely share it with everyone.
I'd go with what info I had and file what I could! And I'm sure this woman is thankful you are being so helpful, you can only help more with the info you have. Keep us updated :)
If you can help, since it was your car in the first place, then you should help...especially if you have information that can lead to the guy's arrest. To me, if you don't report the info you have, that's withholding information vital to a crime. Technically, as far as being responsible for the car, that's out of your hands, it was sold already before this other woman bought it so technically you should be off the hook as far as selling is concerned, but I'd check w/the authorities & see if you REALLY need to file a report too or what you need to do or if you're off the hook, or what your situation is regarding this issue, that way you'd at least get an official 'word' on your part. Be sure to get the names of who you talked to so you can have a reference if they say you're "okay" & something happens to where you get more involved later not knowing you had to, you can have backup info. stating that so & so you talked to said you didn't have to do this or that. But again, if I had info that would help nab a criminal...why would I wanna keep that to myself?? That's like being an accessory to a crime IMO. Good luck!
Okay read your other post. As a seller you are not responsible to do a background check on the buyer, you only are required to know you didn't steal the item. He didn't steal it either, he paid you for it. Perhaps he tried to title it and couldn't so he sold it.
Although it is a nightmare of paperwork I don't think he actually broke any laws. Well if there is a law involved it would be on the lines of tax law type stuff. So I don't see what charges you could file against him.
Since the title change was never registered you may be able to ask for a duplicate title and then just sign it over to the lady as buyer and seller. That may be the most painless solution.
Oh I am pretty sure she doesn't have a criminal case either, just a civil case since he sold it without clean title.
I don't know but there must be an easy way out of this.
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