My husband & I are trying to conceive our 2nd child. We have a wonderful 6 yr. old boy & have wanted another child for a while now with no such luck getting pregnant again. My Dr. has prescribed Clomid. I am on my 2nd month of taking it now (technically I’m on day 6 today 2/28/08)& the reason I am asking for advise is because basically I feel really stupid about the number of days thing! See I have NEVER had a regular period, it seems like every other month my period starts a week later, but thats neither here nor there. These are my Dr.’s notes for me: Day 1 start period, Days 3-7 Clomid, Days 11-14 Ovulate, Days 21-23 Progesterone level blood test.
Just so I’m clear & forgive me for being so naive, we are suppose to be trying to conceive on days 11-14 is that correct??? Any advise would be appreciated, or if you have any experience with Clomid, I’d love to hear your experiences. Thanks
I've never been on clomid myself but I have a friend that was on it unsuccessfully. She started taking an herbal supplement called Dong Quai. She has been taking it for about 3 months now and tells me her periods are becoming more regular, which makes it easier to track ovulation. I'm not big into pharmacuticals though and don't know much about them. Also, red raspberry leaf tea helps to tone the uterus. Hope this helps, good luck!
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A.O.
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I have not tried the Clomid, but one of my dearest friends was on it for almost a yr, and yes 11-14 days are the days you want to try and conceive.. She also has gotten pregnant with using Clomid, she is now having twin boys.. Best of luck to you!!
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J.K.
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Although I don't have direct experience with this medication I know a great resource has been: www.menoqueen.com and www.women4balance.com/4health Please be fully informed, those are not the only days possible to conceive. It's really not that tight of a window. Are you sure you are ovulating?
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Hi A......there are other things to do as well besides take the Rx. There are amazing people in this city who can help. To start with check out the website www.birthwell.com to connect with someone who works with preconception. Good luck...Moxy
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D.M.
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A.,
Doctors can say some really dumb things, can't they! If your cycle is highly irregular, then you are probably ovulating on different days each month. That's just logical! You will probably have the most success and happiness if you just don't worry about drugs and try Natural Family Planning instead. Go to http://www.boma-usa.org/ for more info. It's easy, accurate, and nearly free (you just have to learn first). Take your fertility into your own hands, rather than a doctor who obviously is trying to cram you into a category you probably don't fit in.
My husband and I used the Billings Method to postpone and then achieve our baby. My mother-in-law, who has extremely irregular cycles, used it to conceive all three of hers, exactly when she wanted. She's also a teacher, and I think does long-distance coaching, if you don't live near her. She's all about NFP and charges virtually nothing because she just loves sharing with as many people as possible. Send me a message and I'll gladly put you in contact with her.
Best of luck! ~D.
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L.K.
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Hi A.,
While I did not have any success with the Clomid, our twins were conceived via IVF. There is an amazing organization that you can be a part of online called "Resolve." The reason I'm suggesting this is that you can converse and exchange information with women who experiencing or have experienced what you're going through from all over the country or in your backyard. Go to resolve.org and you will be amazed at the information available to you. I became close friends with one woman in particular and we now get together for play dates with our twins. Best wishes to you...
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N.M.
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As with others, this was our first course of action. First of all, your doctor should have told you to take your temp; higher temp = ~ovulation. Second, you should have also been advised to use an ovulation kit, esp. since your history is of irregular cycles. Third, your husband should have also been tested to make sure that there isn't a problem on his side of the equation. Finally, your doctor should have also given you the option of IUI (Interuterine Insemination), esp. if your husband is not at 100%. This is a procedure that an ordinary OB/GYN can perform - you don't need to go to an infertility specialist for it. In addition, the IUI procedure is used in conjunction with the Clomid (it can be taken up to six months though not preferred).
The IUI procedure is this: you ovulate, call the doctor's office, you go in either that day or the next, your husband makes a deposit in a cup, the doctor makes a "shake" and puts it in a syringe with a long "hose", your doctor uses an ultrasound to figure out which ovary is ovulating, he inserts the "hose" at the entrance of the proper fallopian tube and pushes the boyz in to ensure that they don't get lost (you know men, they don't ask for directions :) LOL). The reason I still remember all of this detail is because I had an idiot of an OB/GYN who did NOT do the above and when we went to the specialist we were enlightened. Could have had a lawsuit, but as you know, the goal is to eliminate stress not create it. We finally conceived twins after 4 IVF attempts. So in other words, don't give up. If you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Good Luck!!!
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As the other respondents said, but in addition to that, you want to make sure you look for your body's "ovulation" symptoms... discharge changes, ovulation cramping, basal body temperature etc. There is a lot of info on this on the web. So don't just rely on counting days, look for your body's ovulation signals too. I never used Clomid... but we got pregnant naturally by going according to my ovulation symptoms and tracking that along with my period etc. There are also "ovulation calendars" on the web, which are free and you can use this to track your own pattern. It's very useful and this is what I used. We got pregnant this way. Just do a Google search for "ovulation calendars." You can also buy a "basal body temperature" thermometer. You take your temp every morning before getting up. Keep it next to your bed and log your temperature every day. This is what I did also. Since you are trying to get pregnant, also take vitamins, folic acid etc. or you can even take pre-natal vitamins already. I'm not a doctor, but this is what many women do, to prep your body.
Good luck to you and take care,
~Susan
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H.F.
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You should be trying the most around days 11-14. Some people say that you should try every other day so that the "little guys" can build up but I think that depends on your DH.
But don't discount the days before and after though. Sometimes the "little guys" can live for up to a week. So have fun, and be spontaneous as much as you can. "Trying" is supposed to be the fun part, but when it's been this and have to consider the calendar it can become more of a chore. To avoid this my husband and I came up with a "signal". I kept track of my chart and when it was time I put on a special nighty and special perfume. That way we never had to look at each other and say "okay, it's time". I mean how romantic is that?
I hope that clomid works for you. Don't give up. My daughter was 6 when our second was finally born and we had been trying since she was 12 months. At times we thought we would stop because our daughter was getting so old and we didn't want a huge age gap. And yes the age difference is hard but it isn't anymore difficult than having two very close together, it is just different. My girls aren't "friends" but they do love each other and it is fun to watch my older one helping her baby sister.
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A.G.
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You can try to conceive on days 11-14, the approximate time of ovulation. Do invest in an ovulation kit to pinpoint your best time to conceive (when I was using them 16 years ago, they were $50 per cycle use, but they are readily available and less expensive now). Especially with such irregular cycles (mine were never, rare, or very rare before all of my problems were tackled), you will want to know for sure if your body is ready or if something else is off. Also, be patient, I was not regular until about 6 months into the Clomid therapy, and I was on other meds and treatments at the time.
Most importantly, relax and don't tense up about it all. It would be counterproductive to your goal.
I'll keep praying for you all!
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M.M.
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I have never used clomid, but I would suggest that you get the book taking charge of your fertility. You have to be committed to charting your cycle, but based on your temp. it tells you when you ovulating and you can even tell that you are pregnant before a test shows a positive result. It is an interesting book and I found it helpful as did many of my friends that had a difficult time getting pregnant. Good luck and best wishes.
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R.D.
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Hi A.
I took clomid to conceive my first baby, now 20 months old. I did not ovulate until day 19 when I took it. I was told this was very normal. I took the clomid, then went to the dr, they scanned to see if there were any follices, they checked my LH levels, gave me a shot of LH as my levels were low, and 2 days later I went back for IUI (artificial insemination). If you are not going to get checked at the dr, I would recommend using ovulation test strips. http://www.pregnancyteststore.com/ovulation-strip-instruc... To get pregnant with my 3rd baby I used the kits were you get 20 strips, these are the most economical. (i think!)
good luck
R.
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K.J.
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yes you are supposed to have sex on the days you are most fertile (days 11-14). I took clomid as well when trying to conceive my first child. After the 1st cycle of meds my doctor told me that I didn't ovulate and we would have to take a larger dose the next month. I gave it up at that time and then later found out that not only was my doctor wrong about me ovulating, but I actually got pregnant! With my second child I decided to try the Fertility Awareness Method where you get to know yourself so well that you know when you are ovulating therefore have a much higher chance of getting pregnant or not pregnant when you want. It worked so well for me that I got pregnant the second month of doing it! I would highly recommend you at least take a look at the book and try to understand your body. Your doctor may not have your cycles correct and therefore, you won't get pregnant, even if you are taking meds.
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I successfully became pregnant on clomid. I would suggest buying an ovulation test to take during days 10-17.
I too took the clomid days 3-7, had sex days 12-16 and became pregnant. My ovulation test did not show positive until day 14, so it is best to try until day 17 if possible.
I tried to have a baby for a long time and my period has always been irregular. Clomid actually made my periods shorter and my cycles 29 days. If I were you, just have sex every other day after your period ends up until day 17.
I also noticed cramping around ovulation, which I actually did not have sex the first month because it hurt so bad. The cramping was on day 14 and 15. The next month it wasn't so bad and I think I conceived days 14-16.
Good Luck and just have fun!
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K.D.
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Hi A.,
I have been in your situation and I can say clomid wasnt for me, but yes you should be having sex probably days 11 through 16. However, you MUST look for signs of ovulation if they are not doing a scan of your ovaries or giving you a shot to induce ovulation. If you are not going to a fertility specialist I would highly recommend going to one as they will make sure your ovaries are not being hyper stimulated and you are not developing any cysts. If you develop cysts and they do not go away when your period begins the next round of clomid will basically not be effective because of the hormones the cysts produce. At least that is what the fertility docs told me. I eventually got pregnant off of injectable medication, however, I do have a friend who got pregnant with twins from Clomid. Good luck! If you want to chat more about this feel free to email me!
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A. I was taking clomid. my instructions were take the pills on days 3-7 of my period. Have sex on days 14-16 of my cycle. I was able to get pregnant while taking 100mg of clomid on my second cycle. Hope this helps. If u have any more questions please let me know.
N.
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E.S.
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I think that the fact that you don't have a regular period is significant. Have you gone to see a fertility specialist? Don't waste too much time with your regular doctor. Every single day you are less fertile than the day before. I started to try to conceive at age 35. Lots of wasted time with a regular GYN and several misdiagnoses later, I found myself in my late thirties with diminished fertility and still no child. I wish someone had told me to go straight to a fertility specialist as if I had, maybe I would have a bio child now.
Incidentally, after 7 years of infertility, we finally adopted and are very happy now.
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J.S.
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It was a long tme ago. I had irregular periods, was anorexic (no one knew what it was at that time) and couldn't get pregnant.. You are supposed to monitor your temp. when your temp. rises to a certain level--this is when you ovulate--you are supposed to have intercourse at this time. It is usually 11-14 days into your cycle but your temperature will tell you exactly when. I used this method and got pregnant within months and gave birth to a healthy little boy. Clomid can also cause multiple births.
Jan
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T.C.
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Hi A.,
I would agree with your understanding of the Dr's notes. But, since you are so eager, I would call the Dr. office and double check with the nurse. I would imagine they would be pretty helpful. Best of luck with another addition.
T.
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L.P.
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Yes, you are trying to conceive on days 11-14.
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J.B.
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I also used clomid with an irregular period. Two things 1) before you try your doctor should be giving you ulTrasounds to check the number of folicles to avoid multiples ard day 14 and maybe again ard day 17 if by 14 you don't have a viable folicles since your periods are long. 2) you should pee on sticks starting on day 11 until you see you are ovulating and then try when you are. Goid luck.
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M.W.
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I had a great experience with it. The doctor told us to try every day during days 11 - 14. However we were only able to every other day due to my husband being sick. He also advised using the ovulation kit. Which I also did. We got super lucky. I only had to take it the first month and got pregnant with twins. My experience isn't the most common, but happened to turn out really well. The reason the doctor put me on it was because I was only having a period every three months and blood tests ruled out any other causes. He came to the conclusion I just wasn't ovulating regularly.
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H.W.
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HI A.,
I was 31 when I concieved my daughter after several years of being told I would not have children. I used the ovilation tests from the drug store and found I only ovulated for about 24 hours. Medically is that possible??? Who knows but I do know that to be true for me and after using the test we now have a daughter.... and a son!
It is worth the ovulation test to be sure you are trying to conceive on the right day with Clomid.
I hope you have much luck,
H.
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B.G.
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Yes, that's correct: days 11-14 are your fertile days (assuming your cycle is about 28 days). I took Clomid, but it didn't work for me--it lengthened my cycle by a lot, but it screwed up my ovulation patterns. (Though, I know it works for a lot of other people.) Good luck!
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C.S.
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A., If you count 10 days after the first day of
your period, THAT is when ovulation begins. It will last
(roughly) 72 hours. This is called The Rhythm Method.
Catholics have used this method for centuries. Both to
get pregnant as well as to not>
Good Luck to You, C. S.
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L.M.
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Hi A..
I am in your same boat.
I have tried for the last two years to conceive. I am older than you. I am 38 and have a 16yr old and a 4 yr old. I know this is a big age gap-but having a third sibling-especially for our four year old would be great. We have tried everything from doing it the 11-14th day. Starting with the 3rd day after my period end and every 2 days after that...nothing has worked. The fertility specialist said that my chances are slim and that I should go straight for the invitro. I say, "It's not like I have not had kids before. Why so quick to do such a drastic procedure? There are risk of multiple births and complications. I was surprised at how rushed he was to suggest this.
I need to keep trying and invitro needs to be seen as the very last resort." In the mean time, I am going to change my diet and keep trying the natural way. At least for another year.
It makes me wonder??? I have met so many younger women in their early twenties and mid thirties who are having trouble conceiving after trying for 2-3 years. Is it what we are eating? TThe enviorment? Hmm? I can see that my fertility is shot down but I just don't get why so many younger women still can not conceive...
These are my thoughts.
L.
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J.S.
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Hi A.,
I have also taken clomid goog/bad experience. I was doing IVF and they put me on this...I believe for blood sugar levels. I was on it non-stop for month...even into my pregnancy. It made me sick to my stomach all the time. Hopefully you are not experiencing that. But I do have to beautiful little boys now. Fron to seperate IVF's. So the torture was worth it. But they say it effects everyone differently. Most women will ovulate between 11-14 days....so you are right.
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Hi A.,
I highly recommend buying an ovulation kit. You can start testing for the surge on day 11 and continue until the kit shows you are ovulating. Different doctors have different recommendations but when I was going through infertility I was told to use the kit. My friend has been using clomid and uses the ovulation kit too. This will tell you exactly when you are ovulating. You can get the kits at walmart... they are with the pregnancy tests and feminine hygiene products. Prayers for success for you. We adopted our little girl after much failed infertility and she is a wonderful blessing.
C. :-)
With me, clomid sometimes pushed my ovulation back, I'd start taking the ovulation tests (answer is the brand I used) on day 10 or so, then when you get a positive there you know you'll ovulate in the next 24-48 hours. Are you doing any temping? That will also confirm ovulation. But to answer your actual question, yes, your dr. is assuming you'll ovulate between cd 11 and 14.
Good luck!!! **Babydust**
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C.A.
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Hi,
First off, let me say that I am a not in the medical field, so my information is from my own experience and from what I have been told or read. If you have any questions about this process you should ask your doctor for clarification. It can be a confusing process when you first start out. Your doctor's notes have ovulation at days 11-14, so yes, you are correct that this is when you should be trying. Make sure you know that you are ovulating within that time frame. Some people may ovulate earlier or later than this time frame. This is true for me. Ususally two weeks after you have tried to conceive, your doctor will have you take a blood test to check hormone levels which will tell them if you are pregnant and they may check other levels. If your progesterone level is low, you may be prescribed progesterone to bring the level up. Clomid seems to be the first medication doctors usually start with in trying to assist in infertility. I did two cycles of Clomid and then went to an injectible medication. I conceived with an injectible medication that I received through an infertility doctor. It can be overwhelming reading all the info and learning about the science of getting pregnant with a little bit of help. I wish you lots of luck in this process and that you will achieve your goal of a new baby!
C.
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Hi!
I did 2 rounds of Clomid with IUI & both were unsuccessful. I was supposed to do a third, but I was frustrated & stressed, so I decided to give up. Then, I prayed to God for help conceiving & got pregnant on my own the next month. My advice is- start having sex in the days BEFORE you are supposed to ovulate as well as the days that you are probably ovulating to ensure you don't miss it & ask the Lord for help. You don't have to go through it alone.
C. : )
PS Don't forget that since Clomid usually causes you to release more eggs than normal, your chance for multiples is higher.
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M.S.
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Hi A.
I never had regular periods either. I would sometimes wait up to 6 months for my next period. So when we couldn't get pregnant after our 1st child I was prescribed Clomid. I was concerned about the 11-14 days thing too. The first cycle didn't work. And my next period didn't start until 3 months later. We tried again with a higher dosage and i actually got pregnant.
To make a long story short, i think Clomid somehow "manipulated" my body into being "on time". So i would definitely try to conceive between day 11 and 14. Don't give up, Clomid is the first thing physicians try. But there are other medications out there too. You can try Clomid 3 times if i remember correctly.
Good luck to you.
M.
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C.S.
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Hi A.,
You're still young so the Clomid might still be fine. But honestly I had a OBGYN waste a lot of time with me at age 37. I too had very irregular periods, and I tried the Clomid deal with no luck.
I finally took my sister's advise and went to an "Expert" in TO after 8 months. Within 10 minutes he said he had a theory, he did an internal scan and said, "You have PCOS (Polycystic Ovary Syndrome)" which really screws up all your hormones throughout your cycle so it's really hard to be at the right point to conceive during your cycle (especially on Clomid). I only wish I had know before the eight months. I'm so grateful we had SUCH a great doctor. It still was a very long road for us, but we have THREE beautiful children that according to my original Dr. I was too old to have.
PCOS can be worked around if they know you have it. But irregular cycles is one very important clue! My cycles were all over the place and as I got older it got worse they could go from 24 days to 42 days! Which made it impossible to do the Clomid correctly. A side note I did get pregnant on our own just before the Clomid deal and then lost the baby at 6 weeks. Later I was told I had to be very careful at the beginning of my pregnancies because of my constant hormone changes. I think my specialist had me take the low dose of aspirin for the first trimester and I may have also taken Progesterone. A Dr. would know but if you do get pregnant you can ask about it because it's pretty common to keep your hormones level.
My advice is since you are young try the Clomid for no more than three times. It's not too expensive. Then have some hormone tests done and even have them look internally at your ovaries. If you have PCOS then your ovaries look like a bunch of grapes. If the doctor really knows what he's doing he'll be able to tell, not sure how many OBYN's do this test though. Also a lot has come out on diet in the last 5 years check into the whole PCOS and diet online.
Most likely you'll be fine and really the Clomid deal is so simple if nothing is wrong with your hormones. Most importantly if you feel like things are not being taken seriously just go to an expert. I can not stress how much easier it was once we went to a doctor who really knew what he was doing!!!
If you want to ask me more email me! Believe me I've gone through just about everything with infertility.
A Little About Me:
I'm a 45 year old mom with three beautiful children and a great husband. We have a 6 yr boy and almost 4 yr Boy /Girl Twins. I'm very grateful for my little ones as I waited along time for them!
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B.S.
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Hey A.,
I have not had experience with Clomid, however in response to your days. What my NP said was that you take your cycle days.. so say you have 28 days in your cycle, divide by half - day 14. So you want to try on days: 12, 14, and 16. But just double check that with your dr. From what I have learned you have to have sex every-other day when you are ovulating. Hope that helps. :)
Good luck!
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hi. i used clomid with my first child but we did IUI which i highly recommend although out here it is likely not covered under insurance (i was in NY at the time where it is covered). an IUI would ensure that you are getting the timing exact. while yes you should be trying to conceive during days 11-14 you should really call your doctor to find out which day precisely or how often you should try. i'm surprised your doctor isn't monitoring you to track follicle growth every other day and give you a shot to ensure ovulation the day before you are due to ovulate. call and ask! don't feel stupid.
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S.H.
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I used Clomid for both of my children . The first child took 4 tries , the second took 1 time . you should be talking with your doctor about when you should conceive . When I took that she let me know what days to try to conceive. I am so thankful they have Clomid so I am able to have both of my wonderful children . Especially when I thought it might never happen . Good luck in your future.