Breech Baby - Palm Coast,FL

We tried it with my son and it was painful and didn't work. I have a couple friends who had success with the Webster technique that chiropracters do. We decided to forgo this and went with the Drs recommendation but in hind site I wish I would've tried it!!!
Good luck

Talk to a Midwife - preferably a Certified Professional Midwife (CPM) about it.

I was in the same situation. My general practitioner (an MD, who also does accupuncture) said she had lots of success with accupuncture and moxabustion. (Google it.) The needles were placed in my little toes and then she burned moxa next to them. I was sent home with instructions to have my husband burn the moxa next to the little toes, twice a day. He did it, but complained the whole time that our house smelled like a "college dorm room." Sounds crazy and I was totally skeptical, but baby started moving that day. It felt like he was just super active. The next day, he was head down. It is worth a try and not dangerous. If that doesn't work, I'd try the chiropractor (trained in the Webster technique.) Then you can always try the version.

I used homeopathic pulsatilla to turn my baby. They are sold at health food stores and there are a couple of different brands. Hylands and Boiron are the most popular brands. I usually get hylands brand. Take 4 tablets under the tongue every few hours. It amazed me that this worked. I don't know why it works. And, it cannot hurt your baby.
Oh, and you can go to a chiropractor. They have a technique called the Webster technique. They get you in alignment, and the baby naturally goes into the correct position. They don't touch the baby. If your hips are off, then the baby isn't comfortable in the head down position. It is getting late for you to be able to effect much change with chiro, but I would definitely try that before a version!

You can get the baby to move on it's own by doing exercises for it. Look it up on the internet. I did the one where you get on all fours and push your back up like a cat several times in a row and a few times a day. There are some that are done in the pool. Success rate is high with these. Try them, they cannot hurt and they will probably help. Your baby needs head down input for as many weeks as possible before it is born or there is good likelihood the vestibular system will be affected. After the birth, turn him upside down and hold him in place for about 5 seconds once a day to simulate what he didn't get in utero. This is very important because the vestibular system is the pacemaker of teh body. If it is off, everything is off. Good luck getting him turned quickly without intervention.

Hi
Congrats on your pregnancy! My husband is a chiropractor in Hollywood. He has successfully done the Webster technique that another mama details below. Here's his info in case baby can still use some help turning.
Dr. Steve Feinzig, DCPA ###-###-####.
2120 Hollywood Blvd.

Good luck to you!

Hi M.,

As Terra D. suggested, check out http://www.spinningbabies.com and look for a chiropractor that has experience with the Webster technique. You have the right to decline the external version, you may also be able to a find a provider that will allow you to attempt a vaginal delivery. There are women that have had successful vaginal deliveries with a breech presentation and both mom and baby were fine.

I just read this post recently written by the mom who vaginally birthed her breech twins. I encourage you to ask around, do your research and decide what you feel comfortable with. You have options and may find that something works to get your baby to turn or as you exhaust your options, you'll be making the decision to have a c-section based on the outcome.

http://trulyblessedlife.wordpress.com/2010/11/14/you-cant...

Best of luck to you and congrats on your little one.
Peace,
J.

Relax there is still a lot you can do. First visit www.spinningbabies.com there will be instructions on different positions you can put yourself in to help turn the baby. Secondly, go find yourself a chiropractor. They have a MUCH higher success rate at turning babies and they do it without laying a hand on your child so absolutely NO stress on the baby what so ever. They use something called the webster technique that will basically helps insure that your back and hips are aligned properly and that the ligaments around your hips and uterus are loose and not holding the baby in an awkward position. This is 100% safe for you and the baby. Last, don't let the doctor talk you into scheduling a c-section before labor starts. A breech baby can turn right up to and even during labor! Not to mention there are new studies out that are proving that it is actually as safer if not safer to birth frank breech vaginally as opposed to a c-section. Call around and see if you can find a midwife or another OB that is willing to assist your OB in a vaginal breech birth. Good luck!

M.,
I was just in this same situation a few months ago. I needed to have the baby at 39 weeks because of some other complications, so they sent me in to have the version and the plan was that if it worked, they would induce me and if it didn't they would do c-section. The hooked me up to ultrasound and monitors and 3 people got in there to try to the version. They only tried for a minute or so and it was very painful. The doctor in charge had alot of experience and she said she could usually get a good feel in this first try if the baby was going to move. They tried once more and the baby would not even budge at all. She told me I could get pain medication and they could keep trying but that she really felt that the baby would most likely not move. I opted for the c-section. It was my 3rd and had not had one before. I was amazed at how easy the c-section was. Of course, the recovery was more difficult but it was not terrible. I don't think it would hurt to try the version but hopefully you have a good doctor experienced in doing the versions and you can work with them and discuss with when you do it how hard you want to try and what you want to go through. I know I was worried about having c-section, but don't worry about that, you will be absolutely fine.

Sounds really strange, but my son was breech at 30 weeks and the woman who did our childbirth classes (also a midwife and doula) suggested:
- laying upside down on the ironing board at a 45 degree angle and rubbing my belly in a cirular motion for 10 minutes twice a day

My son did turn- not sure if this was the reason, but the timing was right! I ended up with a c-section anyway for a different reason and will tell you that the recovery was painful. Unless you have a LOT of help at home you may want to try what you can to avoid a c-section with two other children.

Good luck!

Drs LOVE the idea of c sections, did you notice how there are so many "emergency" c sections now? The c section rate is well over 30%. It's criminal. You have been given some great advice and I'm hoping you're find a great midwife to help you get the baby to turn. I watched a wonderful video that my husband got for me, it was a story of a woman who had her dr turn the baby and the baby went back into breech, she fought the system and had the baby naturally breech. It can be done. Google breech vaginal birth australia movie
There are herbs you can take and smell to help turn the baby too. But... sometimes the baby just wants to stay that way. you're a pro, you've been through birth and labor before..... Go for it and stay strong! If you'd like the name of a midwife, check out Connie Mullen she's in Palm Beach County, not sure where you are!
Peace!

My 9 year old was breech the day before I had him. He was born at 37 weeks, I had very high BP, and was leaking amniotic fluid. My Dr wanted to do an amnio to see if his lungs were ok, and when they did the sono, he was complete breech with almost no fluid. So no amnio. I was scheduled for a c-section the next morning, and when they shaved and prepped me for the c-section, they discovered that he had flipped during the night. So I was induced. It CAN happen.

I had a version done at 38 weeks with my first. With no ultrasounds at the birth center and a small baby, my midwives didn't suspect until that point. The version was not an enjoyable experience for me. It wasn't unbearable, but it was very uncomfortable and a little bit freaky with the medicine they give you to help your uterus relax. That being said, my version was successful. However, ultimately I had to have a c-section because my daughter did not engage in my pelvis...she stayed head down, but her head was cocked back from being breach for so long. (She wasn't one of those babies that turned multiple times; she was breech from about 28 weeks on, in retrospect.) She was a face presentation and I never went into labor. I am not sure if the version helped anything, but it was worth a shot for me.

For my 2nd pregnancy (he is 4 weeks old), he was breech at different times in my 3rd trimester. He turned a few times at the end and ultimately stayed head down...and I was able to have a successful VBAC. Although, he was posterior, which was not fun. I used the spinningbabies.com site as well, as was recommended to me by my chiropractor. There are several positions you can do to help your baby turn and the website explains what they are. You invert yourself to try to stretch things out and then give your baby some room to flip around.

You should definitely visit a chiropractor. The Webster technique is really helpful and I went to my chiropractor weekly in my 3rd trimester. I HIGHLY recommend Vivian Keeler at Amazing Births and Beyond in Hollywood. Going to her is not anything like going to a regular chiropractor as she mainly sees pregnant patients. She is also a doula and childbirth instructor. At every visit she took her time and helped to relax my body and used the Webster Technique. Her number is ###-###-####. (http://amazingbirthsandbeyond.com/)

I have heard of babies that turned after one session with the webster technique, so it's definitely worth a shot.

Check out the spinningbabies site and go to a qualified chiropractor. And good luck! Oh, and I have heard about the ice pack thing. And also trying to have your husband talk at the bottom of your stomach to draw the baby down.

I had a successful version with my daughter. The procedure was about 10 minutes, not at all painful but rather uncomfortable. I was monitored for 30 minutes before and for 30 minutes after the procedure.
For me it was a great decision, I had a wonderful vaginal birth experience a few days later.

Good luck!

versions are not very successful and can be painful. the version can also be successful, and then the baby turns back.

i had to have a c-section with my third. - i was more comfortable with the scheduled c-section than the thought of the emergency c-section if something went wrong during the version.

good luck.

Why do they want the baby to move now? When I had my oldest she was head down then turned completely over in about 5 hours before she was born. I ended up having a c-Section becasue she was breech.

My son was breech and they reccomended the version to me as well. I declined because 1) Versions are more successful with 2nd and 3rd pregnancies 2) I didn't have an abundance of amniotic fluid 3)Ignorance is bliss, I didn't know how bad a c-section would hurt 4) I felt the procedure would be stressful for the baby

If I was in your position, I would talk to my doctor and ask if I was a good candidate, meaning more than 65 percent chance of sucess. Caring for 3 children and recovering from a c-section would be very stressful for me. There are lots of natural ways to get the baby to turn, I tried a bunch and they didn't work for me. You can try them and then decide how much a c-section is going to impact your life for the next 8-12 weeks after the baby is born.

I have had it done twice. The last time was in July actually and it was successful and I didn't have to have a c-section. But my circumstances were a little different, this was my 7th baby and my baby wasn't totally breech, he was transverse (sideways). So if we hadn't been able to turn him.....it would have definetely been the c-section as you can't vaginally deliver a baby that is sideways. The first time I had it done was with my first child and although I had a c-section that time it wasn't because the baby was still breech. There were other complications, not even related to having the baby turned, that caused the need for the c-section. The best thing that you can do is keep trying to get the baby turned on your own, and relax. Good luck.
J.--SAHM of 7

Dr. Larry Webster developed the Webster technique for breech babies. He discovered that the reason that babies are breech is that the uterus is the wrong shpe because the ligaments that hold it are pulling on it in the wrong way- why?-because the bones to which they are attached are in the wrong place. Find a Webster trained Chiropractor to put the bones of the pelvic girdle back in the correct position, and your baby will do what babies do- turn head down.
Dr Webster found that 96% of babies turn. Of the 4%, he went right into the operation room to see why- either the cord was too short for the baby to turn or the cord was wrapped around the neck- making it act like a short cord. This latter reason is why it can be dangerous to do the forced turning- because you don't know if you are in the 4%. With the Webster technique the uterus shape is corrected and the baby turn him or herself, so you don't have that danger.
Best, k

Updated

Dr. Larry Webster developed the Webster technique for breech babies. He discovered that the reason that babies are breech is that the uterus is the wrong shpe because the ligaments that hold it are pulling on it in the wrong way- why?-because the bones to which they are attached are in the wrong place. Find a Webster trained Chiropractor to put the bones of the pelvic girdle back in the correct position, and your baby will do what babies do- turn head down.
Dr Webster found that 96% of babies turn. Of the 4%, he went right into the operation room to see why- either the cord was too short for the baby to turn or the cord was wrapped around the neck- making it act like a short cord. This latter reason is why it can be dangerous to do the forced turning- because you don't know if you are in the 4%. With the Webster technique the uterus shape is corrected and the baby turn him or herself, so you don't have that danger.
Best, k

Updated

Dr. Larry Webster developed the Webster technique for breech babies. He discovered that the reason that babies are breech is that the uterus is the wrong shpe because the ligaments that hold it are pulling on it in the wrong way- why?-because the bones to which they are attached are in the wrong place. Find a Webster trained Chiropractor to put the bones of the pelvic girdle back in the correct position, and your baby will do what babies do- turn head down.
Dr Webster found that 96% of babies turn. Of the 4%, he went right into the operation room to see why- either the cord was too short for the baby to turn or the cord was wrapped around the neck- making it act like a short cord. This latter reason is why it can be dangerous to do the forced turning- because you don't know if you are in the 4%. With the Webster technique the uterus shape is corrected and the baby turn him or herself, so you don't have that danger.
Best, k

Updated

Dr. Larry Webster developed the Webster technique for breech babies. He discovered that the reason that babies are breech is that the uterus is the wrong shpe because the ligaments that hold it are pulling on it in the wrong way- why?-because the bones to which they are attached are in the wrong place. Find a Webster trained Chiropractor to put the bones of the pelvic girdle back in the correct position, and your baby will do what babies do- turn head down.
Dr Webster found that 96% of babies turn. Of the 4%, he went right into the operation room to see why- either the cord was too short for the baby to turn or the cord was wrapped around the neck- making it act like a short cord. This latter reason is why it can be dangerous to do the forced turning- because you don't know if you are in the 4%. With the Webster technique the uterus shape is corrected and the baby turn him or herself, so you don't have that danger.
Best, k

My 2nd was breech and born via c-section. Everything went fine.

I just wanted to add in addition to all the great advice, your baby will love to have his head rubbed :) My little guy would *live* for me to rub his head...because if you think about it right now, he's getting his head rubbed all the time, they get used to it! GL!!! And happy birthing!