Been Feeling Sorry for Myself

Updated on September 29, 2015
D.S. asks from Schaumburg, IL
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Yes, I pulled the original post because I went back and read it. Frankly, it was full of self-pity and it was embarrassing. It was not the kind of post that was going to help me solve the problem effectively or diplomatically. It was the kind of post riddled with wound-licking. I won't repost it because it's not a good one for solutions or receiving wisdom from experienced women. I've read some of the comments below and I've read some of the other threads. There is some really good advice here and I want to take advantage of it. That being said, I'll try this again, but this time with more feeling.

I am a GS troop leader and have been for a few years. I've enjoyed it. It's been great. I have been one of the lucky ones in that I've had no girl problems that we couldn't solve. No parent problems that I couldn't get worked out. The girls seem to be doing well - they are leading themselves, building connections, gaining confidence, etc. Everything's been pretty cool.

Until this year. We or I or them or all of us have hit a rocky patch with new parents and my co-leader. We did an outing and it went pretty bad for all of the adults. The girls (thank goodness!) had an absolute blast and were oblivious to the adult garbage. We learned new songs, we did an awesome craft, they made up games. I was SO proud of them. They even cleaned up by themselves without my prompting them. They were pretty good to one another too. They buddied-up, they listened (mostly), they were all good. By my estimation it was wonderful for the girls. Anyhoo, the adults are good and mad at me and they do not view the outing as a success. Also, they cultivated a bad aura for me throughout the day that grew into a huge cloud. They have decided I'm incompetent, I'm stupid, indecisive, not a good leader and they can do it better. Why? I don't know and honestly don't care what these new parents think of me. I'm not typing that because I'm feeling sorry for myself. I've typed that because that's the way it is. The thing that's got me all bent out of shape is how they behaved during the trip, which I think is foreshadowing a very rocky and worrying future. This has prompted me to step-aside. You know it’s not good when one of the parents is talking about starting her own troop within ear shot and your co-leader is agreeing. I think they may have been frustrated because I didn't communicate very well. I will readily admit I'm not good at communicating. I often need help in this area in that I need someone to remind me I need to talk to people. I know I am horrible at this. Also, biggest mistake I made was not giving them something to do. Instead they spent their time in ineffective ways by directing their frustrations towards me. The more they did this the more I chose to ignore it. I don’t think that was the best response because the more I ignored it the worse it got. But my go-to response or knee jerk response is to ignore it. It might be that the more I ignored them the more they took that as being "distant". I was not prepared to have parents along. I didn't think it through and didn't have a solution to hand. It just "never" occurred to me. I honestly don't know why. I just didn't think about the adults at all. I was so focused on other things. I had heard about other leaders having problems on outings but it didn't resonate with me so I didn't prepare. As a result I got my backside handed to me on a silver platter. So, yes, this is not good leadership. Now, I really think the best solution is for me to walk away. I really do. Not because I'm pouting or because my feelings are hurt. But because it's time. I reluctantly (at the legitimate convincing of others) continued this year despite my reservations about my heavy schedule. I've got other things going on that I really need to be focusing on. For example, I'm sitting here typing to strangers about some catty cows and an experience that has caused me to question my worth when I really need to be focusing on my finals that I'm supposed to take tomorrow night. That is kinda backwards in my estimation. I am in a mid-life career change and that has it's pressures too, but never mind that for now. Plus I’ve had a death in my family that I’m having a hard time getting through and I think it's affecting me more than I initially realized or was prepared to admit. I know this has made me less communicative and more distant. I have this gut feeling that these new parents are going to be a real problem and if I don't deal with this now it's gonna get apocalyptic because I can tell they are ready to go there. I do not want that to happen. Seems to me I should let them take over and everyone is happy. So after that long-winded post what I really need to know now is how do I walk away from this effectively? I feel awful. I mean really awful. I feel awful for the girls, I feel awful for myself and awful for the parents. The ones that have been with me all this time are like daughters to me. I knew it was a mistake to continue and I feel as if I’ve mislead them. But I didn’t listen to me and here I am. I feel sick and nauseous at the prospect of dealing with this. And I’ve been crying about it for a while. That’s another shocker, I don’t know why I’m crying so much over it. It’s not that time of the month and I’m not menopausal yet. If I resign without another leader in my place I don't know what the consequences would be? As someone said below I cannot see the forest for the trees. Because I’m a little overwhelmed emotionally it’s making my decision process kinda funky. I honestly cannot see. Is it a catastrophe? Or is this a simple problem to be solved with one phone call? I don't know how big of a mistake this is and I don't exactly know how to clean it up. I don't want to upset the girls and I hate the thought of splitting them up. In a way I feel like I’m going into the lions den with the parents – especially the new ones. I want to get out of this with my reputation intact and as little drama for the girls as possible. I'm not interested in burning bridges because I will see these parents around as our kids grow-up. I would like to avoid drama and just move on. I would like to add that I honestly don’t think I deserved the directed BS of those parents. It was harsh, uncalled for and out of place. And if you think I’m self-concerned or worried about me – you’re darn right.

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So What Happened?

A quick follow-up: I went to meet with my SUM. She was wonderful and had a plan/strategy on how to resolve the problem. Thank goodness! I called one of the catty cows who had been my most vocal critic. I asked her if she would like to take over the troop because I'm super busy, unfocused, and have school/work conflicts. She leapt at the chance with great delight. I feel about 50 pounds lighter! This is such a relief for me. The troop gets to stay together and continue! Woo hoo!

Thank you, thank you ladies for providing such wonderful advice!

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J.C.

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I was co-leader of a GS group that had lots of involved parents too. We ended up having a planning meeting in the beginning of the year where each mother was responsible for planning 1 meeting, top to bottom, where the girls earned a badge. This worked out great for all. No one was spread too thin and each meeting was fabulous because each parent only had 1 meeting to prepare for.

If I were you, I would hold a group parent meeting. See if someone wants to step up a be leader. If no one volunteers, I think you should stick with it for the girls sake. I also think you should delegate many of the planning task too though.
Have a list of what needs to get done for each meeting. Have a signup sheet.
Honestly, when I am leading something, if someone doesn't like the way I am doing it, I remind them that I am a volunteer and that if there is a better way they can certainly help lead the way or put us on the right track.

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E.B.

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I think you said it yourself: "I don't have the energy to be the best at Girl Scouts". Simply tell them right now that you are removing yourself from the leadership because you don't have the personal energy that's required in order to lead such a worthy group. Vice President Joe Biden has said, on several recent occasions, that he is not sure he is going to run for President. It's not because he lacks the credentials or experience, it's because he is grieving the loss of his deceased son, and he said he doesn't know if he has the energy to devote to such a daunting task as running for President. People understand that. You may not be experiencing the same life events as the Vice President, but people will understand when you tell them you simply don't have the time and energy to devote to an active group right now, and for the good of Girl Scouts in general and your group in particular, you're going to focus on other things right now. Don't say any more. Don't get into discussing this with ANYONE other than maybe your husband or your sister or dearest, most trusted friend. Keep it very simple. Vice President Biden did not go into lengthy detail about the grieving process, or how his son's family is doing, or how he and his wife are helping with their grandchildren. He just said he doesn't have the energy that the task requires.

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B.C.

answers from Norfolk on

Everyone gets 10 minutes pity party time.
Then you dust yourself off and move on.
Any longer than 10 minutes means you're enjoying wallowing in it - and that's never constructive.
No one likes to be around anyone who's "Oh, woe is me!" all the time.

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K.F.

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Everyone has a momentary pity party once in a while. It's part of being human.

When I feel this way I look for bits of insight from others because if I'm feeling self absorbed I know I'm just too close to the problem to see it objectively.

Next time leave your question up, listen to all the advice (good, bad & ugly) then put together a plan from the messages you feel will be most helpful. You robbed yourself of the key out of your funk IMO. Next time don't give yourself a free pass to wallow.

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S.T.

answers from Washington DC on

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yeah.
context would be helpful.
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D.B.

answers from Boston on

Oh dear - wish I could help, but you edited your question and changed the title just as I was clicking on it. Sorry you decided to do that as perhaps you might have gotten helpful info. Good luck with whatever the problem was and I hope this means you worked it out.

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M.P.

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And your question is? I see this is your first question and you haven't posted an answers. Perhaps you'll be more comfortable to ask and leave questions after you just follow the site for awhile. Some moms give an answer that you won't like. I urge you to not take answers so personally. Look at answers as just information. Use what helps. Ignore the rest.

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C.W.

answers from Washington DC on

Have you contacted your service unit manager? They usually have training that can help you figure out how to work with difficult parents, so perhaps can help you exit gracefully.

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J.G.

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Don't listen to the other J.. You sound like a fine leader. You have some underminers underfoot, so you need to just remove yourself. Just say, "after some thought, I've decided I am unable to lead the troop this year. My plate is over full, and this is what needs to be removed."

Hang in there. I had some "involved" folks try to take my co/op away from me last year. I stood my ground, but it really made me doubt myself. I was crushed for a long time. I thought I was friends with these women, but I really wasn't.

Don't beat yourself up. remove yourself, shake it off, and move on.

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S.S.

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I don't know what you were feeling sorry about, so I can only add to that, I am sure most of us at one time or another have felt sorry for themselves.Usually it's temporary but if you feel depressed a lot, please go for some good ego boosting help~!

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J.S.

answers from St. Louis on

"I'm not that good of a leader. If I were I would have known how to handle this. I think the good thing about all of this is it did expose how bad at this I really am"

This is what one of my grade school teachers called fishing for a compliment. You aren't getting one from me by the way. They want to take over, there is no process to your leaving, it is just a function of being a grown up and saying it seems you want to do this differently, would you like to take over. Not said like a petulant child but a grown up. You know, not a well you seem to think you can do it better!!1!!! *stomps away* but just you seem to have a lot of different ideas do you want to give it a try.

Being a leader is not about your feelings and I see too much of your feelings in this post so yes, you are not a good leader. I am assuming your daughter wants to continue to be a part of this troop? If yes, check your drama at the door and give control to one of the new moms.
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Please for the sake of your daughter who has friends in that troop, don't act like this around the other moms. It was very obvious from your post that you need people to agree with you, do as you think, or you get upset and pouty. You are a mom, you have a child so don't hurt her because of your own needs.

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O.H.

answers from Phoenix on

My first reaction is to not let the "cows" run you off. However, if you really do think its time to go, for whatever reason, then just send out a mass email to all the parents, saying you think the time has come for you to move on and is there anyone interested in taking over the group? Say you will be happy to help out and your daughter will stay in the group (if she will). That way you will still see the girls you've become close to. Or if you are going to leave the group and your daughter isn't going to return, then you can have her friends come over or still be in touch. I don't know why you couldn't do that.

Sometimes things just come to a head that makes us reevaluate what's going on in our lives and sometimes we have to cut some things out to make room for some peace and quite. If you have too many things going on and a death in the family, it's a lot to deal with and maybe this just threw you over the edge. It's ok. Just cut back on things that aren't a priority so you can have some time to get back to normal. Good luck.

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M.D.

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I wrote a response, but now I see that this wasn't the original question. I don't like feeling misled, so I'm erasing my response.

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M.G.

answers from Portland on

Osohapi has really good advice - I think that's what I would follow here.

My first reaction was the same - don't let a few nasty comments make you give up something you have enjoyed and felt good at.

The other thought was - are you sure it was as you say, they all feel you are stupid and incompetent? I can't imagine moms carrying on this way at a GS outing ... but then I haven't been involved with them on that level. I do know that when my husband has volunteered with scouts the outings were always poorly organized and the parents were confused, but that goes with the territory! He used to just step up and take charge while the leader dealt with the kids. I've heard that happens quite frequently.

So if some of this could be better handled - like JC mentions below - where a parent could take some tasks on, or the co-leader could handle tasks for parents ... would that help?

I guess you have to decide if you're mentally prepared to deal with this group. Sounds like you've been really stressed and this just got to you. Maybe in a week's time it won't be so upsetting. Any chance of talking to the co-leader? Just in case some of this was a misunderstanding and you could clear it up?

Don't beat yourself up too badly. People making rude comments at any time is wrong, so that part - let go. That's on them. And not being your best is understandable too - you are human.

The other thought was talking to your unit supervisor person and getting advice from them.

I like the idea of still being involved though - if you've enjoyed it and like being involved for your daughter's sake.

Good luck :)

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G.♣.

answers from Springfield on

Of course! Wouldn't be human if I didn't.

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