Another Potty Training Question - Collegeville,PA

Updated on September 09, 2010
K.N. asks from Collegeville, PA
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My son is was 2 years old in April. I started introducing him to the potty around 18 months but never pushed anything. He goes to daycare Mon-Thurs and when he moved into the two-year old room back in March they started asking him if he wanted to sit everytime they did diaper changes (every 2 hours). He would go occasionally, but again no one was pushing him. Finally in June he really started so show signs he was ready and would willingly sit at home and even pee on the potty. Then the real breakthrough came about two months ago when he had his diaper on, we were doing a puzzle and he stopped and said "I have to go pee" and ran to the potty. From then on over the next month he gradually worked his way up to be what seemed to be completely trained - at home anyways. I always put underwear on him at home, accidents were minimal and even if we went out he would tell me and go potty wherever we were. At daycare, he was still wearing pull-ups. He would go on the potty 1 or 2 times a day but was no consistently dry and I was nervous about how he would do there being that he's busier, more distractions, the pull-ups made him lazy, etc. Then about a month ago (early August) he insisted on wearing underwear to school so I said fine and he did great...for two days. Since then he has not had much success at school and even at home he's not doing as well as he was before. What happened? What happens most of the time at home now, is that I'll see him dancing around and I'll tell him to go potty and he says "no I don't have to go" and gets pretty upset with me and then he seems to pee his pants just a little bit and 15 minutes later he'll go on the potty. At this point his underwear is a little wet but hasn't completed peed through everything. Do I force him to go when I see him dancing? It seems like my involvement is making it worse - like he wants it to be his idea and do it himself. I am beyond frustrated at this point because I know he can do it. He did it for a month and he clearly recognizes when he has to go, he just wont get up and do it! I find myself punishing him/withholding things (i.e. - can't watch Thomas until he goes potty, can't go outside until he goes potty) but I'm not sure if this is a good strategy. When we first started this potty training process, he was getting M&Ms for going potty but the rewards didn't seem to matter to him. He didn't ask for him and most time he forgot about it. He was more interested in getting back to what he was doing then a couple of M&Ms so I just kind of stopped with the rewards. I've started using them again but it again, he doesn't seem to care. It works OK when I use it as bribe (i.e. - I'll give you a treat if you go on the potty) but I'm not sure if that's the best approach either. These things that I just mentioned (bribing/punishing) are not what caused hime to regress - it is my reaction to the regression and my desperate attempts to get him back to where he was. I just can't figure out why he regressed like this. Do I give in and switch him back to diapers or keep pushing through? Do I try a new approach where I stay home with him, make him sit every 30 minute, set the timer, etc? That seems unnecessary since he knows when he has to go and I think it will make him mad. Should I take a week off from work to just work with more and give him the opportunity for consistency for 9 days? Again, this seems unnecessary too since up until about two weeks ago he did great at home even if he didn't do well with it at school? Do you think it's something in the way they are handling it at school that caused this? At this point I feel like I just want to get him back on track at home and then worry about being trained at daycare later. Any advice? Please don't tell me that he's too young and I should just drop this until he's 3 because I know he's capable. Sorry for the long post. Thank you in advance for your responses.

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N.B.

answers from Minneapolis on

You are right..hes fully capable.

I am a firm believer in a 3 day potty method....I probably sound like a broken record and keep copy and pasting my own reply to similar questions...but I swear by this!

I do home childcare and have used this with method with 5 children now in the last year. A parent approacjed me last fall aobut trying it with her son and I was all for it. It shows incredible parental commitment to getting it done and for me, as a provider, that is HUGE! I don't want to be trained, by taking a child at timed intervals. I want the child to learn to read their own body cues and I will guide them in this process!

I highly recommend you try this as your child is already mostly there! Get rid of the diapers and just do it! Here is my other post from last week!

Try the Lora Jenson ebook "3 day potty training method"
http://www.3daypottytraining.com/

I do home childcare and had a parent approach me last year with this for her then 28 mos old son who had never ever gone potty in a seat or toilet before. We decided to go for it..she was willing and I was willing to support the outcome of thier long weekend. She said it was like boot camp and she waged the war!

You toss ALL diapers or Pull ups (I hate those things)...so no crutches! You have meals ready, casseroles or frozen pizzas and waffles, etc. No errands to do or yardwork or big house cleaning. You stay a few feet from your child for the 3 days (some have needed 4). You DO NOT make your child sit on the toilet at timed intervals and you never ask them to go, but instead, remind them to tell you when they need to go..subtle difference. They learn to listen to their body, rather than a parent forcing them to go sit on the potty. Also, keep that potty seat in the bathroom! Where in the world can you go potty in a livingroom out in the real world???

In the last year I have had 5 children train this way over a 3-4 day weekend and I continue it here at my home childcare. Most have gone back to diapers or pull ups at night only, but I use none for naps, etc. Some accidents happen, but very few really. My youngest was 22 mos, the oldest 29 mos. I have one who turned 2 yesterday and his parents did this method over the last weekend (it was a 4 day weekend as I was closed for 2 days)...and hes in undies and has had one accident (a poo) in the last 3 days, including naps of 2-3 hours each day.

I refuse to have children any older than 30 mos not trained or attempting it here any longer when there are alternatives. Most of these kids had never gone in potty before and I try not to use a small seat any longer than needed and use the full size toilet. I need to help with pants and hand washing, but to me this is way better than all those diapers on big kids!

You can do it!!!

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M.E.

answers from Philadelphia on

Your son is right around the age that my son started losing interest again in the potty. He had been doing well, in a relaxed, no pressure way, since he first peed on the potty at 16 months. But I sensed he was losing interest, and he started getting upset when I'd try to get him to go. What worked for us was to just start taking him at regular intervals. I am at home with mine, so I'm not sure how much cooperation you get from daycare on this, but we started taking him to the potty what seemed like all the time, before and after everything--waking in the morning, meals, going away, etc. When I say, taking him to the potty, I mean I never asked if he had to go. In the beginning, to gain his cooperation and not make him resent the potty, I would come up with crazy things that we would do together on the potty. I put a book rack next to his little potty in the kitchen with books. We built block towers, looked at catalogs that just came in the mail, anything to capture his interest and keep him from protesting and I would undress him and get him on the potty while he was preoccupied with whatever I'd come up with that time. Which reminds me, having his little potty chair in the kitchen was a big part of it. He didn't have to totally leave the action to go the bathroom each time. He was in underwear and rarely having accidents by 2 1/2. Now he just turned 3 and still usually uses that little potty instead of the bathroom. I figure, whatever works. After a while, the very frequent potty breaks naturally spaced themselves further apart. To this day, I just take him to the potty if it's been a long time without asking him if he has to go. They are just so "busy" at this age. I know you said that your son knows when he needs to go, but it takes a lot of self-control to stop what they're doing unless they know it's not a choice, but just part of the routine. Now my son will tell us sometimes, but I think in general the saying you have to go part of it takes longer to develop than the rest of it. I know your son told you he had to go before, but that was when the potty was new and exciting and not overshadowed by all the million things he does now. We started with pullups. I know everyone says they delay potty training, but I was not going to have pee all over the house. Your son sounds like he is further along than mine, though, when I started this, so you may be able to skip right to underwear. We switched to underwear when he started to show that he was thinking of the pullup as a diaper and wasn't having many accidents anymore. Once we switched to underwear, that was it. The pullups were packed away and we never looked back. We were always very positive about the potty and made him think he was so good at it. And we spent time with him while he was sitting there, as I said. So it was fun time that he had our undivided attention. Sorry I can't give more advice on what to do about him being at daycare. But if you switch him to underwear fulltime at home, I think it will defeat your plans if they don't also keep him in underwear at school. Good luck and hope this helps. I agree with you that you shouldn't just give up and wait until later. I can't imagine training my strong-willed 3 year old at this stage (or changing his diapers!)
M.

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D.W.

answers from Philadelphia on

I think sometimes in a new situation they may regress. It sounds like you should do what I did and keep him out of pants when he is at home. I let my son run around without any pants or underware so when he needed to go he went. It sounds like he was headed in the right direction. At the day care they should have the kids they are being potty trained going every so often. Sometimes when the kids get distracted they will pee their pants. Do not do diapers or pullups. I would tell him he gets a treat if he goes potty at the day care. May be if their is a new thing he wants like the new thomas movie make a chart for him and when he gets enough stars you will buy him the movie. start on getting him back on track at home. work with him in the evenings and on the weekends. That is awesome that you were able to start him early,since i was so many times that boys are harder to train. Good luck and do not give up.

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J.O.

answers from Chicago on

So with all stages og development they go two forward and one step back. What else is going on? New kids or teachers at school different routine there?Or are there new things at home a sibling on the way, mom working more or less, dad working more or less think about the environment around him. You already now what he is capable of and he knows when he has to go so leave it up to him. :eave the light in the bathroom stools in place so he can wash up and get on the potty himself. Also if he is having mini accidents like a little pee in the underpants have clean ones available for that he can get himself. I know he is young but he can probably dress himself at this point too. Gentle reminders of "it looks like some has to go potty in this room" when you see the potty dance. You have set him up for success. Good Luck!
J.

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