7 Year Old School mate...not Really Friends and Here's Why.....

Updated on August 20, 2015
J.G. asks from Elma, WA
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It was the beginning of a new school year last year and he was going into Grade 2. New school, new teachers, new kids.
It was not an easy transition and after about 2 months of him crying himself to sleep and telling me that one particular kid pinned him down on the playground and threatened to break his glasses was the last straw for me. I advised the teacher that I will not have any more of this. Biggest (or maybe not) mistake I ever made as the teacher did what she needed and reported it to the principal. All school year they were at odds with one another. Placed in "friendship group", countless times in the principals office. Only until near the end was a change and we enjoyed sportsday together (well somewhat...different teams).
So during this summer the other kids mom offered to take the boys to a movie. I thought that was very thoughtful and my son agreed to go. Apparently another kid and mom had joined and will elaborate more later. I am not really asking a question yet rather looking for support.
So I reciprocated much later in having the other kid come over for a playdate. As they do go to the same after care/summer care but not as f/t as my son and this child always asked when he could come over for a playdate.
Well it was the most excrutiating time for them and me! I tried everything in playing hockey, to snakes and ladders to putting on a movie to ultimately taking them to the park and then dropped him off at his home. They are like oil/water.
I explained this to the mom upon arrival and she just nodded.
So now next week both boys are at summer camp together, and the first thing the other boy says to my son is, "I'm not allowed to ride in your car anymore because you through a ball". Then later that day when I picked up my son the camp leader approached me and discussed with me that while they were at the beach my son scratched this boys back and severely enough that it left scratch marks. I spoke with my son and he this boy asked him to scratch his back and another kid pushed him. I'm not completely sure of that and in any case what my son did is completely unacceptable and he was punished. My son opened up to me and stated that this kid follows him everywhere and also they didn't get along. So I sent a text to the mom stating this and hoped that we have a peaceful school year and that we as parent's tried. She replied with a pic of her son's back and that her son is very upset and "honestly I am too" she said.
I am a very proactive parent and immediately suggested that the boys avoid one another as it's obvious that they do not like one another and why force the friendship any more. The camp is aware and I also emailed the school principal who replied quite quickly suggesting that due to their previous conflicts that they would hope to have them in separate classes. I do know that they will see one another and I am teaching my son about social responsibility. He has never harmed another kid before. This was very shocking to me. Otherwise my son is a very likable, friendly kid. This is a one off but worried it could escalate further. I have obtained some books for him and am hopeful he will never get so frustrated that he has to do this. I agree with the comment I received ...making these kids like one another just isn't going to happen. It's too bad that they have to be in the same school as it is very small school. He misses his other school, as do I, but it was the bef/aft care that made me move him due to work schedule.

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So What Happened?

thank you for most of the kind responses. This is the only kid that my child has had a problem with to date. Not to say my kid is perfect and will never encounter another person he doesn't like before his life ends; however, I am a very proactive parent and disciplined my child for his unacceptable behaviour and now have books for him to read and worksheets i.e. Taming Your Dragon, A Volcano in my Tummy. Unfortunately, the mom withdrew her son from the camp today and feel that her son is most likely "playing" her. I know, my son has done this with me. I am moving on and yes I realize I have years of parenting ahead of me. It's unfortunate that the school wants them to learn "social responsibility" so much as to smother them. Yes it's very apparent....they do not want to be friends...well at least my son doesn't want to be his and wishes he would stop following him around....he's annoying he states. That being said, he does need to learn to be around the kid as they will eventually see one another again either at bef/aft school care or at school playing along with other kids. Hey maybe the kid will change schools??? yeah!!! Wishful thinking.

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S.T.

answers from Washington DC on

well, i guess it's nice that you and the other mom tried to make it work.
but it seems as if you're really overthinking this. the two boys don't like each other, aren't compatible, and aren't going to be friends. i think the escalating to scratching really underscores this.
it sounds as if the other mom, the principal, the school and the camp all agree.
so why not just let them not be friends?
it's not like it's the last time this will ever happen. kids need to learn to distance themselves quietly from people they don't like. drama over it is unnecessary,.
khairete
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B.C.

answers from Norfolk on

I get that they tried some conflict resolution but these two were kept together I think WAY longer than they should have been and I think instead of the adults all trying to make/force them to get along that someone should have separated them long before a physical confrontation came to the forefront.
Yes no one should have injured anyone BUT I think all the adults involved pretty much failed these two kids.
My Mom always use to say "If you can't play together nicely then don't play together at all".
Sometimes old advice is the best.
No one HAS to be friends with everyone!
It's ok and preferable for kids that don't get along that they don't get together.
Go over the basics with your child but the next time he says he doesn't get along with someone - believe him.

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O.O.

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Why is everyone so insistent that these two be "friends"?
Look, NO kid is going to like every. Single. Kid. He. Meets!

I tell mine (and have since K):
You're going to meet a LOT of kids.
Some will remain friends for life, others will be friends for the school year, others in the sports fields, or sport season, and MANY you may not like as friends. AT ALL.
You don't have to like everyone but you DO have to respect everyone.

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K.F.

answers from New York on

Healthy adults don't try to form and maintain friendships with people that mistreat them yet the adults in your son's world expect him to do just that.

I give this social experiment an F. All your son needs to do is to be polite and respectful but he definitely doesn't need to be friends. I would get him into martial arts classes or some other kind of physical activity that can help him with his confidence.

I was buillied in school. It didn't change until I changed. Your son may need to change slightly.

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S.H.

answers from Santa Barbara on

I think you can let the school know there is no reason for the 'friendship circle'

I agree these boys should not be forced to be friends. Maybe one day (5th grade or something) they change their minds and find a common interest, but for now avoids each other.

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M.G.

answers from Portland on

Not sure what you're asking either - but my take on situations like this - it's ok to intervene if your child is being bullied or is so upset that he doesn't want to go to school. I get why you contacted the school.

But forcing friendships in general - I don't find it a good idea. So I don't.

I think your child will be relieved next year to not have to try with this child, and I would just have him focus on being friendly with kids he genuinely likes who treat him well.

It sounds like you meant well and had his best interests at heart, but it didn't work out - so you let it go and move on. Next time, I wouldn't try so hard :) I don't think if you ever have to try that hard it's a good thing - kind of a sign it wasn't meant to be.

Good luck and I hope he has a much better year :)

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C.B.

answers from San Francisco on

I think you need to encourage the powers that be at your son's school to take some classes on how to deal with bullying. Not that your son bullied or was bullied, but this "friendship group" is ridiculous and that is the first thing they will learn. You can't make kids like each other and you shouldn't try to do that. There are many other things that can be done that actually do work. Your school is way behind the times in this regard.

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J.P.

answers from Lakeland on

Why do they need to be friends?

Do you push people to be your friend even if you don't like them or get along?

I just cant figure out this type of parenting. Not everyone gets along and not everyone needs to be friends. I'm not saying they need to be mean to each other, but why force something that's never going to be.

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G.♣.

answers from Springfield on

It's great that the teacher and school tried to give the boys a chance to get to know each other and become friends, but you gave it a shot and it just wasn't in the cards. That's ok.

At this point, let it go. The boys have let you know time and time again that they are not friends. Again, that's ok. The vast majority of us were not friends with all of our classmates growing up. It would be great if they could learn to tolerate and, dare I say, be polite to each other. But if you continue to push them together, that's not likely to happen.

Let them be. Encourage your son to get to know his other classmates, explore other activities - sports, Cub scouts, martial arts, etc. Let him know that it's important for him to be polite and kind to this boy, but let him know that he does not need to be friends with him.

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T.S.

answers from San Francisco on

Um, this is just a part of life. Kids don't get along with everyone they meet, just like adults.
I hope you are able to get used to this and move on, you have MANY years of parenting ahead of you, and this kind of thing is barely a blip compared to the real challenges and struggles ahead...mean kids, bullying/gossip/peer pressure, hard teachers and schoolwork, unfair advantages, puberty, love/sex, drugs/alcohol, academic, social and athletic competition, discipline, maintaining balance and values, all this and much, much more.
You need to get stronger mama, parenting is NOT for the weak :-(

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S.C.

answers from Kansas City on

You did try. And you're not placing blame - as you said, oil and water. That's it. They just don't mesh well together. It's ok - as some of the other responders already said, as adults we do not force ourselves to be in close contact and be "friends" with people we don't get along with - why expect a 7 year old to? Chalk this up to a good effort and move on. It's ok.

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L.M.

answers from Boise on

Hi. I read your entire post and didn't see a question. Maybe you can edit your post and ask it there?

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K.F.

answers from Salinas on

I am trying to imagine a similar scenario in our house. The discussion would be how to stay away from this kid not try harder to bond. Some people don't get along, learning how to politely navigate a "forced relationship" like at school, work or social circle is a life skill. Start 'em early, the world is full of people they won't much like.

Strategize with him on how to get along at school without getting too close to this kid. Role play situations where the kid approaches him or follows him around.

Finally have a talk with the school expressing that you do not want your child put in the "friendship circle" with that kid ever again. If it were me I'd tell them I don't want my child in the "friendship circle" with any child EVER. Can you tell how much I hate the way many schools deal with this sort of thing? Sometimes little Billy and little Bobby are never going to share a friendship, and that should be just fine.

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N.B.

answers from Oklahoma City on

It's obvious that we can't all like every single person we meet. Sometimes we meet someone and our hackles rise for no apparent reason. So we just don't like them and might not ever figure out why.

I've had this happen a couple of times in my life. I still work with a lady that I took an instant dislike to. I am respectful to her and we get along but I just do not like her. I finally found a reason and it's nuts but it's all I have. I worked with her mother many years ago and that woman, I did not like and gave her every chance to do right by me but she, over and over, did things that were not in my families best interest. I never went to her office where I might have seen a photo of this lady that I work with now and I never looked at photos on a phone or anything. Nothing. I just figure there is something there.

I think that your boy has taken all he can from this boy. He has been held down in a position where he might not have been able to breathe well and that makes a person feel deeply threatened. He's been bullied by this boy over and over. I'm sure he's had enough and even if he did the scratch on purpose he has had enough.

Please think about what happened and what happens to kids who fight back against their assailants. They get caught and THEY get in trouble. Then they learn that fighting back and defending themselves gets them in trouble.

So they get bullied and feel bad then they do something to stop it and they get in trouble. It's not uncommon for them to give up and just stand there and allow it. Please go to Stand For The Silent and read their boys story.

He took it and took it and took it. Then the one time he fought back he got in trouble. Then he shot himself.

I'm not saying that learning scratching others isn't a needed resolution and getting in trouble isn't needed. What I'm saying is that kids can only take so much and he might be at the end of his rope if he's starting to fight back.

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