4 Yr Old (Almost 5 Yr Old) Peeing and Pooping in Her Underwear!!

Updated on February 23, 2012
J.A. asks from San Mateo, CA
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Hello, Moms and Dads out there!! I need some advices! I am at my wits end on this matter!! My daughter has been potty-trained for over a yr or so. She knows when she has to go and tells us or go to the potty on her own. BUT in the last 6 mo or so, it seems as if she has forgotten to go when she has to. I am seeing this happens when out in a social setting. Two examples that I can remember that happen recently. Example One~Saturday, my husband, my daughter, my 8 mo old son, and I went to the mall and walks around. We had met one of our friend there and was walking and hanging out. We were in Cost Plus World Market getting ready to check out when our friend notices that a spot on the floor was wet. "Did somebody spill something?" The question hit me like I slam myself into a brick wall!! Nope!! No one had spill anything!! My daughter had pee in her underwear!! I look at the back of her pink pants and sure enough, my conformation was correct!! I was livid!! Why did she do that? She knew she had to go!! But instead of saying anything, she went in her underwear and continue to play with the little candy toys that were on display!! I was mad!! My husband was angry beyond words!! I walked her home cuz we live about a block from the mall. Why did she do this?? Pee in her underwear? Example Tow~I was doing laundry in our apartment laundry room. I had let my daughter play outside with the other kids in the courtyard. I knew she was having fun!! I could tell how excited that she was that she was allow to play outside while Mommy do laundry in the laundry room. When I had to take the two loads upstairs and come back to get the last load, I had her come with me. She was excited!! Going upstairs and knew she was going to play with the kids again later!! I was in the middle of putting the laundry away and told her to go potty. It had been awhile and I knew she had to go. So, she told me that she had to go poop. I thought it was odd that she was telling me this because usually she would just go and get on the potty when I tell her to. So, I check her underwear. POOP in the underwear!! WHAT?!?! Why did she do that?!?! She knows when she has to go potty!! She knows when she has to go poop and pee and get herself on the potty by herself!!
She will be starting school in the Fall. I would like for her to stop going in her underwear. But how do I get her to stop doing that? Please any advice would be good!!

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So What Happened?

O.k. So, it's been over a few weeks since I have posted the question!! I was thrilled with ALL the answer and advice!! I even had one advice I was going to use, but never got to use it!! Because she started going on the potty!! Pooping it ALL in the potty. If she dirty her underwear a little, but got the poop all in the potty, I made her stay in that underwear til she could change it later. I even went back to giving her a PEZ candy when she pooped it all in the potty and it was working!! So far so good. Still keeping in mind that she might poop in her underwear, but I don't have to put her back in pull-ups!!
Thanks Moms and Dads!!

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T.H.

answers from San Francisco on

First, stop the yelling. It doesn't accomplish anything except shaming your daughter. She could just be really interested in what she is doing and can't break away to go to the BR. However, kids often regress in their toileting habits when the are under stress. Is there a new baby in the house? Are you and your husband fighting more, causing more tension in the home? Not to alarm you, but is it possible that she is being sexually abused by a caregiver, stranger, or family member? If none of these are happening, then start a rewards chart. Each day she doesn't soil herself (or each half day) put a star/sticker on a calendar. If she is clean for a week, she gets a small reward. After a month, she gets a larger reward.
If these measures don't help, see the pediatrician to see if there is a physical problem. Then have an evaluation by a child psychologist/psychiatrist to help understand the reasons for the behavior.

A little about me. A child psychiatrist in practice 20 years, married with two children, 21 and 15.

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P.M.

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I'd make sure that she has no medical problems – be sure she CAN feel when she needs to poop or pee. There are conditions (one serious one is called encopresis, and it's not uncommon in this age group) that actually numb the nerves, and a child can poop or pee without noticing she has to go.

But assuming she's healthy and just being too distracted or excited to stop and use the bathroom, here's an approach that may give you just the help you need: http://www.rogerknapp.com/medical/pottytrainingrefusals.htm

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B.R.

answers from Sacramento on

The incidents you mention seem to indicate that she is so busy with other things that she either doesn't notice when she needs to go, or simply is reluctant to take the time out to go. This isn't an unusual reaction for a child her age. You might just want to take notice of those kinds of times and activities, and be more alert to giving her little reminders.

R.R.

answers from Los Angeles on

Don't yell, be very matter-of-fact and have her "own" it. Tell her if she wants to "forget" and continue playing or doing what she is doing when she needs to go that SHE will clean and change herself. Have her undress and "wash" her dirty undies and other wet/pooped clothing she has in the sink or shower, (there's a pink bar detergent soap called Zote she can use), put her poop in the toilet and flush it because "that's where poop goes", get in the shower to wash herself off, and change into clean clothes. Tell her that she will do this each and every time she "forgets," she has to take care of things herself. (If you clean up after her do NOT let her see you doing it.) Also take away her cute undies and put her in plain white trainers, "pretty undies are for when you stop going in your pants and use the potty/toilet."

Once she sees the time involved (d r a g it out) that takes her away from other things and loses the privilege of cute panties she will more than likely rethink her behavior quickly. BTW, this advice was given by my nephew's pediatrician when he "forgot" to go while playing at the age of nearly 5, it took him only two times of the new routine to get him to stop messing in his pants, he absolutely hated missing out on playing and going back to "baby underwear." He never had any accidents once he started school, either.

hang in there!

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A.B.

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Hi-- I know how frustrated you are.. we are finally getting our 4yr old potty trained and it was a terrible ordeal because he 'withholds' all the time and has had major constipation issues b/c of it. But, what we learned from a book was priceless. The basics are this: they are old enough to know simple things but not too much info at once. You tell her, "Your poop and pee want to go in the potty... that is where they belong" and "You are in control of your poop/pee.. your body will tell you if you need to go". Put all the control on them and then when they have an accident just clean it up matter-of-factly. Don't make a big deal about it. They will decide that they want to do it the right way b/c it feels better in their pants, and b/c other kids do it that way.
Does she go to school at all? Our son goes to preschool 2x a week and that has helped with seeing other kids go potty and say that they need to go. He still has some accidents but once we stopped getting mad at him and trying to explain too much he started to really "get it". Now when he has an accident I just say "woops, your poop really wanted to make it in the potty" and "next time when your body tells you that you need to go, come tell mommy or just run to the potty!" I know there are going to be slip-ups and I"m just sorry yours are happening after such success for so long... good luck and I hope it doesn't last long!

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C.B.

answers from San Francisco on

It sounds to me like she just doesn't want to stop what she's doing to go.

What I would do is when she goes in her pants, make her clean everything up herself (to the best of her ability) and then she has to go to her room for 30 minutes. If she has to miss out longer because she didn't use the bathroom, then she will find it worth her wild to stop and go to the potty when she has to go.

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D.W.

answers from Norfolk on

that does sound odd and although i truly dont have an answer besides keep your cool as much as you can and continue to enforce what you have been all along..i wish you luck.

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