2 Weeks Severance?

Updated on April 22, 2011
A.S. asks from Oakland, CA
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Hi. I am a mother as well as an educator. I have been a teacher/director/trainer of teachers for ages 0-12 for the past 20 years. I have been nannying so that I may stay home with my son. I have never been anything but professional, treating each situation with objectivity and offering advice/assistance with behavioral issues as needed/requested. I am currently working for a family that is unintentionally causing so much stress for thier kids--they (the parents) are thinking the kids have psychological issues. Aside from that, they have begun to treat me as if I am their slave. Arriving home up to an hour late, leaving instructions for me to make their dinner (even to make dinner for the neighbors?!). I am only allowed to be in about a 200 sq ft area of the house with their 2 kids as they do not want the house to get dirty. In a meeting, I had warned them a few months ago that if they continued down the path of their required schedule--their kids would begin to break down and be defiant---well here we are. And--the parents are blaming me. I am going to give my 2 weeks tomorrow--and have a feeling they are just going to let me go---without pay. I would never treat my sitter in this fashion, let alone a nanny--How do you parents feel about severance pay? Knowing that the nanny profession is one of those jobs that has NO security. Thank you in Advance!

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Thanks to everyone who responded! I gave my notice today and the parents were VERY surprised. They would like to discuss it further. I am bummed as I love the kids, but simply can't deal with the parents. I do not blame them, I just let them know it seemed that I was not meeting their needs given the amount of tension I was getting from them--I let them know I would be happy to help them through the transition. =).. (as an aside--I knew that severance is something offered when one let's another go.. =).. I wasn't expecting it.. just feeling it out) I am sure gonna miss those kids... (they both started crying!!)--*sigh*
thanks again for all your input!

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C.W.

answers from Santa Barbara on

I would anticipate severance pay if the employer lets the employee go (I'm thinking corporate world). Unfortunately, you are quitting and I don't blame you one bit. They may not just let you go tomorrow unless they have another nanny lined up.

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T.R.

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Ugh..that sounds awful, I would want to quit too.
If you give two weeks notice, they should let you work the two weeks and pay you. But as far as severance, there are large corporations out there that don't offer severance when they lay off employees, even long term employees. Severance is not mandatory, it is a generous offer from employers. Sometimes it's written into a contract and sometimes not, but a company will offer it as a "right thing to do". Unfortunately this family probably won't do the right thing. I would say, if you really need the money, stick it out until you find something else, otherwise, don't expect anything from them. Good luck to you..

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H.T.

answers from New York on

We've had our nanny for years and another one part time. If I terminated their employment for any reason other than they did something horrible, I would pay severance. But if one of them quits, why in the world would I pay them? Severance is for layoffs not when someone quits. I don't blame you at all for quitting. They sound horrible. But even the nicest of employers likely won't give severance to someone who quits. They may let you work the next two weeks but also may be too mad or worried that someone who quit won't do a good job and be careful.

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S.B.

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Give your two weeks notice. You have made up your mind to terminate your employment.
Some may disagree with me, but I would do this in such a way that you can ask for a letter of reference given the excellent service you have provided the children and let it go at that.
You are not happy. You apparently have not been listened to.
Where they allow you or the children in the home is really not your decision so I wouldn't get into any of that.
The fact is that you are not happy and you want to move on in an amicable fashion.
Give two weeks notice.
Do NOT expect severance pay for quitting your job!
Severance means just that....being unvoluntarily severed from your position.
You are the one making the choice.
There is no severence for that.

I've done daycare both in my home and in other people's homes and I've frankly had no problem in saying, "Sorry, this just isn't working out for me".
It was usually over things like me having to serve their children special things to eat (no dietary restrictions, just spoiled) or the fact that their child playing and getting dirty AT ALL was prohibited. I had parents who said their children couldn't help plant in the garden because they would get dirty. I couldn't have one kid in the house in a bubble while the rest of us planted flowers and pumpkin seeds.
If I had parents who wouldn't allow things that seemed perfectly normal to me and all the other kids could do, I fired myself. By giving them notice they needed to find another place for their child.
I didn't expect to be paid by them afterwards as a "severance".
If you're not happy and it's not working out, if the previous meeting wasn't successful, give your notice and move on.
I've known people that live in mansions and their kids aren't allowed in certain rooms of the house. Not without mom and dad. They aren't play rooms, no juice, no jumping on the couches, no toys....
Their kids weren't psychologically damaged by it.
As for the "slave" thing...can't answer to that. In one way or another we are all slaves to children we care for, but if it's crossed the line, it's crossed the line.
Give your notice. Feel good about it.
Don't burn any bridges so that you can get a reference for the time you've put in and move on.
Don't expect them to pay you for leaving by your own choice though.

Not appropriate. Not necessary. They're under no obligation to do that.

Best wishes.

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M.R.

answers from Chicago on

Uh, I don't think you're going to get 2 weeks of salary without actually doing the work. Do you have a contract with them? If so, the contract will need to be followed. If not, yes you can give them a two week notice but they have no obligation to pay you if they decide to terminate you immediately.

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J.S.

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THey sounds like psycho parents for sure, you will be better off without them. The poor kids. ANyway, maybe I am mixed up but I think severance is usually only given when the employer lets the employee go. If the employee quits, I don't think there is usually severance. I am speaking generally, I know nothing specifically about nannying, but I'm just saying.

best of luck to you. And those kids, they sound like they need it.

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answers from Dallas on

If you quit, they have no obligation to pay severance. Many decent people will, but they sound wacky. Unless, there is a stipulation in a contract about paying you two weeks severance, they are under no legal obligation...unfortunately.

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T.V.

answers from San Francisco on

A FEW THOUGHTS:

1. California is an "AT WILL" state and therefore you can be terminated without any notice....AND, you can leave without any notice.

2. If they are deducting taxes from your pay, let them fire you and collect unemployment insurance.

3. If you were not hired as a cook or slave, why are you allowing them to treat you as one? About the OT, are you being paid overtime? If there is a lot of OT that you haven't been paid for, you can document it give them a bill and if they don't pay you, take them to small claims court. It would only be worth it, IF it's a sizable amount.

4. You are restricted to 200 sq ft of the house....those people sound like a couple of freaks and I think you should just leave. However, I have to say, you sound a little over the top as far as your input "warning" to the parents about their children. If you know your not to blame don't take any blame no matter what they say.

This doesn't sound like a good thing for all concerned. Tell them goodbye and move on.

Blessings....

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answers from Chattanooga on

But they aren't 'letting you go'... you are quitting. I can't say I blame you in the least!!! But severance is for people who are laid off at no fault of their own... They aren't under any obligation to pay you severance. In this economy, there is no such thing as job security in just about ANY field...

I DO think though, that if they send you home on the day you give your two weeks and don't allow you to work, they should pay you at least half your wages... But I doubt they will. Hopefully you will get lucky, and they will allow you to finish out those two weeks.

Good luck!!!

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M.L.

answers from Houston on

They do sound pretty awful, but you can't ask for a severance or really do anything other than leave should they fire you upon your notice. One cannot collect severance pay when they quit a job, that's pretty laughable.

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S.T.

answers from Washington DC on

well, i'm not sure that giving them warnings is appropriate. you can warn them about what YOU will tolerate, not really about their (weird) parenting philosophy.
if your contract doesn't specify that you are going to cook for them, why are you going along with it? a pleasant 'i'm sorry, that falls outside the agreed-upon scope of my duties' should suffice to nip that in the bud.
staying within 200 sf of the house is just friggin' weird. but apparently it's not new?
i think leaving is absolutely your best bet. do so pleasantly and do NOT 'blame' them for it. a non-committal non-judgemental professional notice will allow you to get a great reference letter and get you out a basically untenable situation.
but severance? i don't think so. severance is for someone who has been let go, not someone quitting.
give them 2 weeks notice as is proper, but don't be surprised if they don't take you up on it. no reflection on your honesty and ethics, but most people who have someone working in their home would feel uncomfortable having that person there when they know they're on their way out.
i hope your next position is a better fit.
khairete
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K.L.

answers from Redding on

A friend of mine who is a chef in a very nice restaurant gave his 2 weeks notice. He told his employer he wasn't happy with the situation and felt it was time for him to leave. He was willing to stay for those 2 weeks to help get another chef hired and trained, the employer decided to let him leave right then and gave him 2 weeks pay instead. He didn't understand why, but I told him the employer felt it was safer to let him go now, than risk a disgruntled chef in the kitchen preparing customers meals. That would be the only way I can see getting any severance pay when you quit. Give those 2 weeks notice and let them make the decision. Also, I know how you feel. I did in home daycare for 27 years and pretty much the only problems I had,,,were with parents. Good luck.

C.C.

answers from Sacramento on

Ugh. What awful people! We had a wonderful nanny whom we loved with all our hearts, and when it was time for our daughter to go off to preschool, we paid her 1 month severance, and helped her post on Craigslist plus a local parents' website to find a new position. If we had not gotten along with her so well, I would have given her 2 weeks' severance. Had she given her notice, I'd have paid her through the time that she worked for us (however if I felt the need to have her leave then and there, it's only fair to pay her through the end of her notice period).

I'm glad you're getting away from these employers, and sorry for their kids!

L.M.

answers from New York on

Ugh they sound horrible. I would think severance should be given...I don't know what the deal is on it...

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Sorry you've been having such a hard time with your employer.

Generally, severance pay is offered by an employer when they let someone go, usually when it is not the employee's fault that they are losing their job. (Sometimes to placate someone on the way out the door.)

Sometimes when an employee gives two weeks notice, an employer will opt to pay them for the two weeks but have them go immediately. Is that what you're talking about? That's not usually severance, though - I've most often seen it happen when the relationship is very bad and the employer just wants the employee gone, or fears they may try to sabotage things if they stick around.

Good luck with your situation.

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B.R.

answers from Sacramento on

I am making the assumption that you have made a contract with these people. If so, go back and look carefully at the details of the contract. If you didn't think ahead and make a written contract, or if you did not make provisions for this situation, I'm not sure you can do anything other than learn from your mistake and do better with the next job you take.
I have concerns for what you indicate you believe the parents are doing to their children with their parenting habits. Is this anything you can report to other professionals in order to attempt to help out the kids?

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answers from Kansas City on

Why don't you have a job lined up you can start right away, that way you won't have to worry about severence pay?

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